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March 2023

Information icon Hello! I'm DatGuy. Please remember to indent your posts on talk pages. This allows for concise communication and clear understanding between editors during discussions. Thank you and happy editing! DatGuyTalkContribs 01:01, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@DatGuy: May I ask what you are referring to? ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Just in general, I noticed when you edit on mobile you don't indent your comments, such as here. Indenting helps very much with readability. DatGuyTalkContribs 13:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Oh. Dang flip phone. It's hard to type on, but I didn't know that it didn't always indent! XD ChessEric (talk · contribs) 14:03, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

February 2023

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Stop being rude to IPs. You must assume good faith and stop assuming they are socks without evidence. You also may not remove others comments, WP:TPO. You recently got a 31 hour block for this behavior. You will be reported to ANI if this continues. 24.187.202.139 (talk) 15:49, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@24.187.202.139: Thanks! I needed a good laugh today. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
And again, another IP revert... Tails Wx 16:38, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
@Tails Wx: I'm used to this. It happens to me a lot. This warning makes this case absolutely hilarious though. XD ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:41, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I can agree that this IP's warning is hilarious and exhilarating! Tails Wx 16:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@United States Man, TornadoLGS, Penitentes, Poodle23, Mjeims, Wxtrackercody, Halls4521, TornadoInformation12, Ionmars10, CapeVerdeWave, and Elijahandskip: I think everyone needs a good laugh this morning, so check this out. I reverted an obvious Andrew5 sock edit and the dude got pissed and sent me this! XD I will admit that I'm a little upset that my recent block is being used against me, but I'm going take it in stride. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:51, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@Tails Wx: Bruh. It happened again! He attempted to redirect the Hurricane Cindy (2005) tornado outbreak again! The best part is that he tried to do it manually this time! I love this guy! He never gives up! XD ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Haha-I wonder if it’s related to Never Gonna Give You Up. Anyways, I doubt they’ll stop, so you’ll probably have more fun-and for a longer period of time! :) Tails Wx 22:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

You did not just make a Rick Roll reference. ROFLLMFAO! 😂 ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Hehe-hope the SPI goes well. We’ll see in the future if they come back! Tails Wx 22:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
@Tails Wx: This is getting out of hand. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 15:43, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I concur. Like I said above, I doubt they'll stop. Nice job reporting those IPs to SPI and keeping a lookout on them! Tails Wx 15:52, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. This isn't fun anymore; this is frustrating and annoying. This is why this whole project is paranoid and suspicious of any IP edit. Almost all the IPs that I've found editing on weather pages appear to have been from Andrew5 socks. This is why things like what occurred on February 9 were happening to begin with. We are tired of dealing with him and all we get are temp IP blocks. More has to be done to rectify this situation imo. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:03, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I also want to add that the 12 "suspected sockpuppets" are the most ever added in that specific category for an Andrew5 case. I'm not bragging about this; this sucks. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:08, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
They’ve helped me with my article, but since you stated that they’re Andrew5’s IPs, I don’t know how to deal with it, I guess I’ll leave it for now. And 12 “suspected sock puppets”… yikes! Tails Wx 18:23, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

14 now. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:32, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah! And I’ll agree that this is getting out of hand! Tails Wx 18:37, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
So is it just WHOIS evidence? What about the 13th and 14th IPs? I’m confused of the IP’s comment on the SPI page. Tails Wx 19:49, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Wait. The Ashburn location is a Verizon building. I'm confused. Why are there so many accounts out of there? Also, yes Tails. The WHOIS is what I go off of. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:56, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Looks like the SPI discussion closed, though only 2 of the IPs on the SPI page were blocked. And now there's new ones after the report closed? Crazy! Tails Wx 03:02, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Yeah. I found another one today. XD ChessEric (talk · contribs) 05:33, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

March 5, 2023 conversation

if i can find an image of a tornado or some damage from march 1-3 would that be better? CKulak05 (talk) 21:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@CKulak05: A great resource for storm damage is the Damage Assessment Tool. It shows individual damage points for tornadoes. They points generally come with pictures and they are public domain, so if you find that you think is adequate, you can use it. Hope this helps! ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:36, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

awesome thank you!! CKulak05 (talk) 04:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Hurricane Marco (2020)

Hey, ChessEric! I was hoping I would nominate this article very soon, but per WP:GAN/I#N1, I must secure the assent of the significant contributors before nominating. It looks like, on XTools, that you are a significant contributor to the article, so I figured I would bring this to secure your assent. I would also bring the attention to Destroyeraa but they've been gone for a while. :( Anyways, thanks! Tails Wx 23:39, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@Tails Wx: ...I'm sorry, what? I've never heard that before; can you explain what that is? ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

So, under the linked GA section, it states If you are not a significant contributor to the article, you must secure the assent of the significant contributors before nominating. I only made 13 edits, you've made 93 edits, 80 more than me! So technically, I don't qualify as a "significant contributor" to the article, as I have made 13 edits while you've made 93. Tails Wx 00:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh. I could care less about that! XD Go ahead! I'm rooting for you! ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:42, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the authorization and the support! :) Tails Wx 00:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Just a quick question, is there anything in the article that needs to be improved/changed? Thanks! Tails Wx 00:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@Tails Wx: I honestly don't know. I haven't seen that article in awhile. You can just do a GAN and the reviewer will tell you what can be improved. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 04:27, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Tails Wx 12:11, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
@Tails Wx: Hold up. YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME?!? WHEN DID YOU DO THAT?!?!? ChessEric (talk · contribs) 14:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Huh? Tails Wx 14:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
You were Sarrail (which I didn't realize) and Severestorm28. I was wondering who this "new" person was! Why didn't you tell me!? XD ChessEric (talk · contribs) 14:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Ohhhhh! Yes, I was them! Until I switched account names! ;) Tails Wx 15:34, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Arkansas City, Kansas

In general, predictions / speculation / forecasts are not to be included in Wikipedia articles, per the rule Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Since the passenger rail connection between Oklahoma City and Newton has not been official approved yet, thus it is speculation. You using the word set implies that it's a for sure deal, but it isn't. I'll redo it with the word "proposal", which is actually what it is. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 05:10, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sbmeirow: Oh. I see what you mean. I honestly didn't think it was due to the approvals from various cities. I guess I'm also a little bias due to my love for Amtrak (I use to live on the East Coast and rode trains all the time) and because the Heartland Flyer goes through where I live now. My bad. I'll do better next time. ChessEric 15:24, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

List of United States tornadoes from January to March 2015

Good catch on removing that tornado from March. It was apparently added here by a trouble maker a couple years ago. United States Man (talk) 22:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@United States Man: Oh...um...thanks! I didn't even realize how bad it was written, although the waterspout thing was weird to me! XD By the way, I'm working to add leads to the lists pages. Once that's done, more  Dones will start appearing again in the List pages table. ChessEric 03:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

WP:OR

Just to reiterate what I said in my summary, I haven't checked but I believe you that they were similar paths. The problem is that there is not a reliable source giving a comparison between the two. For you to see the comparison in the absence of a source saying it means that you personally researched and came to that conclusion. That is a clear and obvious violation of WP:OR. Any time you see comparisons like that, even if they're useful and informative, we have to remove them. Nothing against you. This happens a lot on in hurricane articles. wxtrackercody (talk · contributions) 19:18, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

@Wxtrackercody: Again, the path is here. Why is this not a reliable source? ChessEric 19:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
That path is for a 1952 tornado. It says nothing about a 2023 tornado. You have identified that they are similar -- and they are -- but there isn't a single source explicitly tying the tracks of the two together. For example, take this ABC News article for the Moore tornado, comparing its track to the 1999 tornado. There is an explicit comparison there by a reliable source, so we can move ahead on making the comparison. There is no such article for this tornado. You see the comparison because you have previously researched the 1952 tornado on your own. That's OR. wxtrackercody (talk · contributions) 19:22, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
@Wxtrackercody: Oh...crazy thing is the 1952 tornado was the fourth one to hit that city in just over 100 years. The other three were unofficially rated F4 as well. I'm probably not going to find a source for a comparison, so I'll just remove it. ChessEric 19:29, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
@Wxtrackercody: Could I say something like, "This was the fifth significant tornado to strike the city since 1851," instead maybe? ChessEric 19:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
This still wouldn't fly, this time for WP:SYNTH (taking two reliable sources to reach a conclusion that neither of them state). At the end of the day, there have been plenty of towns hit by more than one strong tornado in history. I'm not sure it's worth noting. wxtrackercody (talk · contributions) 20:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
@Wxtrackercody: Dangit! I like adding facts! You suck! XD ChessEric 20:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

A Barnstar For You!

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thank you for all the copy editing work you do! Especially the clean-up after my addition of the 2023 Amory tornado’s damage survey. Elijahandskip (talk) 20:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Wow! Thanks bro! However, that barnstar is probably going to go TI12 later. XD ChessEric 20:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

March 3, 2023

Hello! I'm @jacobsharrison. I made a change to the List of United States tornadoes from January to March 2023 page describing where swim team members of the YMCA of Northwest Louisiana had to take shelter in the locker rooms. It was reverted by you because of no source. I guess this message is the source.

I'm the reason that the team, as well as everyone else in the building, took shelter in the locker rooms.

Practice was over prior to the issued warning. As we were all leaving the pool, already going in the direction of the locker rooms to change, everyone got the warning on their phones. We proceeded as normal, because this is a normal occurrence for us down here in Shreveport. However, I looked at RadarScope and turned it on to velocity mode and noticed a very bold signature indicating that there was, in fact, a tornado on the ground. Not just a storm capable of producing one.

It was at this moment that I ran out back into the pool area to alert the coaches that there is a real tornado on the ground less than a mile behind us and everyone needs to take shelter in the locker rooms. We did so, and the coaches quickly made announcements over the intercom throughout the YMCA for everyone to take shelter.

A couple minutes later, the whole ordeal was over. The YMCA was not damaged at all, because the tornado had lifted by the time it reached us. However, there was obvious rotation because wind could be heard in the locker room during which the tornado would've torn through the building.

After this, everyone was released back into the facility and the team carried out their normal schedule. Jacobsharrison (talk) 23:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

...ummmmmmmmm. That's great and all and I do believe you, but the message still doesn't count as a source. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 15:44, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
@Jacobsharrison: I'm sorry if I seemed a little harsh there. I'll see if I can get a consensus to add it back. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 17:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)That cannot be included without a reliable published source. If this is included, then there's a LOT of things that could be added to many events. Not every detail of each tornado is encyclopedic. United States Man (talk) 22:43, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Figured as much. ChessEric 22:46, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the response Jacobsharrison (talk) 18:06, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I suggest that you re-read this section before re-adding unsourced content to Tornado outbreak of March 24–27, 2023. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 01:14, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Need Your Help

Hey, major discourse going on with the March 24-27 article. We have minimally active users who are JUST now realizing how long the damage summaries are for long trackers, and are trying to do away with them. I need you to back me up on how long we have been doing this, and the fact that nobody has ever raised any serious concerns about it. If we can no longer contribute detailed summaries, IDK if I'm going to be able to keep helping you guys, so this is serious. I can't believe people are trying to make this non-issue into a problem. It's been this way for years, and I want to keep contributing here, but can't if I'm being stifled. If this happens, the quality and passion that goes into these articles is going to get flushed right down the toilet. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 05:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)TornadoInformation12

@TornadoInformation12: Really? Alright. Careful though; this is technically canvassing. ChessEric 15:50, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
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