User talk:Bluepenoffun

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When you google Richard Fifer and the wikipage shows up, it has titles that are linked to the article but I cant find them in the article. They are incorrect and need to be eliminated.

can you expand. what are you seeing where? the preview that comes up in google search is often a "cached" version that reflects a previous version of the page content and not the current version. when I google, the prview matches the current content. -- The Red Pen of Doom 15:35, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If I do a Google search, under the main first Wikipedia hit there is a row of several section links, and one of them is a criminal conviction claim. It's to a cached page, so you don't see it in the article, but I found it still in the article history. I've done some rev-deleting so it's now gone from the history, and it will disappear from searching when Google reindexes. I know you can ask Google to de-index a search result if it seems like that needs doing - but I don't know how you'd go about that. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:13, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But you should also be aware that if the charges filed against Fifer [1] resulted in convictions, than that information must also be included in the article. The fact that we are very concerned about content about living people does not extend to whitewashing. -- The Red Pen of Doom 16:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but it was only sourced to a blog - if it gets put back with a reliable source, that's fine. At the moment, though, improperly sourced negative BLP allegations have to be removed. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:47, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most certainly. And since I do not read spanish well enough to be able to assess any nuances within the sourcing I have brought the subject up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Panama. -- (UTC)The Red Pen of Doom 17:55, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What I am seeing in google is the first line being the link to the page, followed by an excerpt of the article. Then these links: Convicted Narcotics Dealer - Studies - Vision - Experience and these last links are not in the article. That cache copy has stayed there since July 22, and I believe this was purposeful. The information was included July 22 and the same person deleted it a few minutes later leaving links. I have noted that wiki is still exposed in this manner to hackers using hearsay and not facts. I will watch for the reindexing and if nothing happens soon, I would like to know how to submit a formal complaint to wiki about specific people that seem to be using Wiki for black SEO and/or have the page removed. The content on the page is factual, and a few are in the process of ensuring that it is all backed by reputable references. YOUR REFERENCE [2] has nothing to do with drugs, its about a confusion with his title given by the President of Panama and in the article itself Fifer clarifies that they had it wrong in El Salvador. The reference is completely invalid. Bluepenoffun (talk) 14:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rest assured that Wikipedia has no influence on making certain versions of data appear in google cache views. -- The Red Pen of Doom 18:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

/* request for help */ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/D-panama This persons contributions to Richard Fifer are still seen in google because of the <-- arrow that is linked D-Links words Convicted Narcotics Dealer to the page which then creates the headings on google. This is not cache, wikipedia is doing exactly what this person wanted. They added this information and eliminated it right after knowing what the result would be and are using wikipedia for their own purposes. Im not sure if I am explaining myself well enough, but it is quite clear what is happening here and wikipedia has not seen it. The comment has been that wikipedia has no influence on what appears in google cache views, that is not a true statement. It may not be purposeful but the links appear and it was done by the person on purpose and was not correctly eliminated.

All of those edits have been deleted off Wikipedia - only admins can see them. Look at WP:REVDEL for more information. Mdann52 (talk) 16:13, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]