User talk:Artichoker/Archive 3

Vandalism

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage! I see that vandals have showed you the "love" too! Royalbroil 18:11, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Brawl FAC

I'm going around and messaging any user who had discussed (or in your case, helped fix up the main task force page) on the Smash Bros. taskforce and alerting them about Brawl's second attempt at the FAC. Any comments are appreciated, especially constructive criticism. I don't want the FAC to drag out so long that SandyGeorgia will be forced to close it before things could be properly fixed. So if you have time, please leave a comment. Thanks very much in advance! --haha169 (talk) 04:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 21:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! --haha169 (talk) 21:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh...shoot. I'm getting disorientated. Okay, Imma read those comments now. --haha169 (talk) 22:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon moves

in response to your edit comment, i happen to completely disagree that everything in the subarticle is covered in the summary section at Pokemon game mechanics. Chiefly, the summary section does not dissect the aspects of moves to the point of discussing Power or Accuracy. Neither does the section fully explain the relationship of dual-typed pokemon when targeted by moves. by your language, "...there is no reason to have this extra article anymore..." it seems you are unfamiliar with the process by which the subarticle was born - it was originally part of the game mechanics article but was then broken out following WP:SS because it was noticeably distracting... i.e. the section isn't something that's been recently written as part of a process to merge. i'm changing things back, not because i want it my own way, but because there was no consensus for what was effectively deletion. there wasn't even discussion - not even a merge tag. you know, and i know, that's not how things are done here. if you'd like to discuss this further, i recommend adding a merge tag and starting a topic at Talk:Pokémon moves. but i strongly urge you to carefully read over the larger subarticle and try to just see if there are any parts that need to be rewritten rather than outright cut. -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 12:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 20:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

i looked over your expansion to Pokemon game mechanics, and yes... adding that accuracy subsection further completes the Moves section overall, but there's still the complete lack of mention on Power - a clearly termed aspect. Please note, though, i'm not neccessarily saying you should add that... IMO i feel that going into that level of detail is unneeded on a higher level topical page. The idea of wikipedia is that we can be all things to all people (both specialist and general) because wiki is not paper. I commend your first attempt at merging, but i find it actually kind of hard of read and feel it may be b/c you're trying to be succinct and glib enough in order to fit everything in the section. Again, if you can add a Power section as well, but clean up readiblity so someone who's not so well-versed can understand, then i think it might be fine - although i feel the level of detail is better served at a lower level. Oh yeah, and it's not "my consensus" to give out. I just generally don't like it when people merge/redirect/delete full articles without any discussion or substantive edits to the merge target. As for AFD, don't you think something like this is prolly better suited to a talkpage discussion? I'm sorry if i came off bitey by my reactions and i look forward to working with you. Happy editing XD -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 05:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 16:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

like i've said several times over, i don't control the page and cannot grant "consensus". To really see if there is consensus you need to follow the processes at WP:MERGE. Note, i'm not saying in every case you must follow this process, but b/c someone (namely me) has voiced opposition to this merger, the next course of action is tagging the articles - who knows, maybe i'm wrong and consensus has changed.... at which point you should merge the articles. but i don't want you deferring to me. in response to the edits themselves, i personally won't be convinced until i see the readibilty improvements. my reasoning is that you cannot make the section properly comprehensive and easy to understand without making it too long. If you can do such a thing, then KUDOS! to you and i'd fully support a merger. -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 17:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 17:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing!

I thank you for fixing my horrible refs! Moogle 12 (talk) 08:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 12:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I've a question. example, I have a ref. but I want to link another sentence to the same ref. how do i do it? example:

Hi Artichoker (ref1 links to "website1"). Hi Mog (I want this to link to "website1") Moogle 12 (talk) 00:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 01:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't get it :(. I want to cite a ref to "Mega Man Battle Network 6 Cybeast Gregar (GBA) Cross/Beast Guide by Zidanet_129". thats ref#1. what will be the -ref name="XXXXX"-? Moogle 12 (talk) 04:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk]

14:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much!!! I appreciate it!! ;) Moogle 12 (talk) 23:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 23:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Another set of questions!

1. Can the Lead section be 4 paragraphs? I wanna include the Beast Link Gate thing.
2. Like how many sub-sections maximum should the Gameplay have?
3. I don't know how to make a good Development. All I know is there is one in the article.
4. What else should I put in critical reception?
5. Any other thing I forgot?

Thanks! Moogle 12 (talk) 12:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 15:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Once again, questions:

1. I fixed the Gameplay. Is it alright?
2. What do I do? I can't find any interviews on the Net for the Development!
3. Can I use in-game quotes as references? I saw they did that on Mega Man Zero 4, a GA article.

Thanks! Moogle 12 (talk) 11:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 16:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

is [1] more reliable than GameFAQs guides? its the manual for the game, written in txt form no pics but the exact text. Moogle 12 (talk) 23:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 23:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

help! my image won't appear. I've uploaded it 2 times and still won't appear. its the chiplimit.png Moogle 12 (talk) 14:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 14:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

ok. I'm going through the game to get in-game quotes. how can i increase the "priority" of the article. it stays low. I dont know if it has something to do with article promotion. Moogle 12 (talk) 11:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 01:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Cookie

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Wow, thank you for the two cookies! Artichoker^[talk] 14:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon Crystal

It looks like you've something against Pokemon Crystal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasdgadsaf (talk • contribs) 03:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

here's an image of the pokemon center in goldenrod with the mobile adapter in it http://www.serebii.net/crystal/goldenrodpc.gif —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasdgadsaf (talk • contribs) 03:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Not that I'm trying to get involved here, but I think Artichoker knows what he's doing with the article given he's managed to build it up to become a Good article candidate. Besides, I really don't think the Japanese-exclusive feature is noteworthy on the English-language Wikipedia. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 03:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 13:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not saying that Artichoker doesn't know what he's doing, I know he's done a good job at articles relating to pokemon games, and the kanto, johto, and hoenn regions. I'm just saying that the Japanese-exclusive feature should be noteworthy on the English-language WIkipedia because it's part of pokemon crystal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasdgadsaf (talk • contribs) 20:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Ctrl-Alt-Delete

Hi, I'm not that well-versed in the policies of wikipedia and I see you are substantially moreso. In your opinion, taking into account the discourse on its talk page, does the editing of the CAD page potentially tread WP:COI ground? - DaoKaioshin (talk) 00:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 00:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have explained my question better. I am not personally associated. However there are some editors whose only edits are on that page. From my reading of WP:COI, a vested interest seems to include such personal interests. - DaoKaioshin (talk) 14:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 15:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the fact that I provided a link, and the fact that although there is no proof of Buckley's deleting accounts etc., the fact that so many people share this opinion surely warrants it appearing on the page. It's hard to talk about CAD without mentioning it. "Many people share the view" or "Many readers believe that" would maybe be more appropriate prefixes to the rest of the article because there are no end of stories about this. Judging that this is one of the MAIN criticisms of CAD and Buckley himself, there is no way it should be left out of the "criticism" section (especially with the link provided) and I ask you to undo your edit.--GuerrillaClock (talk) 15:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, however, a suggestion, if I may. If there were to be a link posted to Yahtzee's website where he mentions the aforementioned criticisms of CAD, would this be acceptable. If the Yahtzee video is a reliable source then surely this website entry should be considered equally so. Thank you. --GuerrillaClock (talk) 21:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 21:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it was posted by Yahtzee. It appears someone beat me to the punch anyway in mentioning the criticism, but thank you anyway.--GuerrillaClock (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 19:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Article

Hello, could you resolve this conflict over the CSGV missions page. What I have included is a brief summary of the organizations goals (right or wrong). Yaf has started a debate under each point about the merits of that goal (EG: Should guns be allowed in national parks because people might need to defend themselves against bears). He is injecting his own opinion about each of CSGV's goals into what should be a sterile summary of what the organization tries to do. If you look at his talk page you will see he is notorious for edit waring and unfair writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.42.55 (talk) 20:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 20:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (July 2008)

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86.134.54.54

Regarding 86.134.54.54 (talk · contribs), I'm not sure that vandalism revert/warning was appropriate in that situation. It seems to me that they meant well, and their combativeness may well stem from feeling bitten by the harsh reception which unfortunately was their first interaction with any Wikipedian. There may not be a lot you can do, in this particular case, but please be mindful that not all odd edits are vandalism, and that interactions with newcomers can cause very sensitive first impressions. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 20:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Non-Canon Zelda

I don't want to get into an edit war over something so trivial, but declaring something as "non-canon" without a source is basically "original research". The fact that they weren't made by Nintendo doesn't cut it. Do you have any primary or secondary sources which confirm that it's non-canon? King Zeal (talk) 14:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 18:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcoming IPs

Hey there, Artichoker! When welcoming IPs that edit productively, it's often best to use a template that asks them if they'd like to register an account, like {{welcome-anon}} or {{welcomeanon2}}. We can always use more positive contributors! Keep up the good work, I don't often see other editors besides myself welcoming IPs. :) GlassCobra 18:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 18:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

3RR

This is just a heads up to remind you that you have now reverted the removal of the italics from the header of Full Moon o Sagashite three times. If someone else agrees they look weird and undoes it, you will violate WP:3RR if you revert again. Since people say supposedly regulars should not be templated, please considered this an "official" 3RR warning. Meanwhile, I've requested clarification on the issue. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

Alrighty. Evidently you've reverted the changes I made to the Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay article, and that's fine, if it was out of place, then I'm all for keeping Wiki articles within guidelines. But accusing me of sockpuppetry? Why, because I added a plot detail that had previously been added (and I'm guessing, removed)? Please, if you're going to hurl allegations at me over my first ever Wiki addition, try and make a stronger case. I saw the film earlier tonight, caught the post-credits scene, then looked the film up on Wikipedia. (I look up most films I see on Wikipedia, just out of curiosity, and to see if there's things I might have missed.) I noticed the scene was missing from an otherwise comprehensive plot section, so I added it in. If this has been added before and removed, then hey, get rid of it. It was my first ever edit, so I can handle being wrong or outside of the appropriate guidelines. (Which are extraordinarily difficult to find and put in context, especially for a new user, by the way.) But to then get a message saying I've been accused of this or that doesn't really make me want to continue contributing, especially with the guidelines, as I've mentioned, being so difficult to find and then get my head around. I'm sorry if repeated edits to that article have gotten up someone's nose, but I wasn't to realise this, and I'm afraid you are way, way off target with your accusation of sockpuppetry.

Now then, I'm new, and still not entirely sure I'm responding in the right way, or using correct formatting and so on. Let's hope I can appeal to the patience that is so obviously wearing thin with new and inexperienced users.

Thanks

Takoma808 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Takoma808 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 18:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

You accused me of Sockpuppetry too? Just because I put that NPH had a scene after he credits during harold and Kumar 2? I went on wikipedia and it said that u accused me of sockpuppetry because of my last change on harold and kumar 2. If you didn't then I am sorry for the inconvenience and will erase my words from your board. Also I was not signed in when it told me that I was accused. It's fine. What is the case about anyway? How do u find out your IP address? sorry about my lack of knowledge. lol 71.125.89.136 (talk) 02:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC) well it is a scene in the film but I won't put itback so ok and sorry for putting it there.

Murdock408 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murdock408 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 01:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the welcome to Wikipedia! From Anthonyrp

[july 16th 2008]

My reply here. Artichoker^[talk] 16:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Portal:The Legend of Zelda

Yeah, I know. I'm co-working on a new layout for the portal which will utilise random displays of content. You're welcome to help - instructions are at Portal:The Legend of Zelda/Selected article. Thanks for all of your hard work on this portal so far, Artichoker. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 20:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Cool. As I say, I'll note you if anything happens to the portal (peer review, or whatever). weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 20:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I might try...could be difficult without images to use, though. I really don't know what I can do with it, to be honest, without any free use images :| weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 20:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm thinking that might stop any real development towards getting it featured... you're welcome to try if you like, feel free to go back to the old selected article style, or use the random one I made, or, whatever you like! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

ACC tool

Hey I noticed you made a request to access the tool. Please confirm that it was you who made the request, I am a tool administrator. Mww113 (talk) 00:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 01:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

ok  Done Mww113 (talk) 01:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

FinalNight's RfA

I notice that you withdrew your support with a note that you were changing to oppose, but I didn't see your new !vote. If you chose not to vote, that's fine. But I just wanted to alert you to this fact.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 06:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)Just saw it.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 06:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

But why?

What's the point of having that typo? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 15:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 15:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

AFD "Pokémon types"

An article that you have been involved in editing, Pokémon types, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pokémon types (3rd nomination). Thank you. Salavat (talk) 17:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Request For Account Creator Throttle to be removed

I've added the flag for you. Per Wikipedia talk:Requests for permissions there is some discussion that if you do not continue to need the flag it may be removed. If this happens it is not a reflection on yourself, simply a recognition that there is no value in you having the right if its not used. Note that this is not a policy, and I'm just letting you know the current debate. Either way, I'm fine with you having the permission. Thanks! Pedro :  Chat  20:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 20:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

You are more than welcome. Feel free to hit me up if I can be of any help, either with the admin buttons or as a fellow editor. Pedro :  Chat  20:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Please be careful when approving accounts

You recently approved an account to be created for Joyzhenq88. I checked the logs and a name similar to this one already exists. Not only that but I looked at the I.P.'s editing history and there is some vandalism in it. I resetted the account request and denied it becuase of the similarites. Please be careful to look at the logs available and not be quick to just approve right away. Thanks! --Eric (mailbox) 00:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 00:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Your ACC tool usage

Please don't close requests like this as too similar note that Fefeli has only 2 edits that were made in December of 2005. Please defer such requests to an admin. I have reset the request.

Thanks, Mww113 (talk) 13:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 13:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

 Done –xeno (talk) 13:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem. You may want to join #wikipedia-en-accounts !!!!

Rollback

Oh, sorry I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out.

I'd be extremely grateful if you could tell me where to file a request for Rollback.

Thank you, TheSuave (talk) 14:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 14:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Thanks for your help :). So if I added a new section to the page using hotcat would that be the correct way of doing it?

Sorry to be a pest - just want to do this properly :).

TheSuave (talk) 14:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 14:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my User Page.

Much appreciated :).

TheSuave (talk) 21:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 21:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

You broke the bot

Hi, at [2], you changed the header. Before making a major change like that, could you please tell me? My bot checks for level 4 headers, and now that it's level 3, it hasn't been working. Please remember this in the future. Soxred 93 12:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 14:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow...

Oh boy, this really sucks for Junming999. It took him/her more than 1.5 hours to add that information, and you deleted it in 1.5 seconds! I do not disagree with that revert, but a kind message on the talk page of the unlucky person might be a good idea. Cheers, Face 17:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 17:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

You did the right thing. I just hope we didn't scare him/her away. He/she didn't "replace" the Japanese names, by the way. Cheers, Face 20:36, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

I just wanted to thank you for revert of vandalism on my user page. I guess now that I'm using Huggle and reverting vandalism it is starting to show. Anyway thanks again!User talk:Kurowoofwoof111|talk (talk) 19:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Edit war on Pikachu

*facepalm* I completely forgot about the 3RR, propably because his/her edit was, well, just weird. Then again, I dislike using cold templates in situations like this. I prefer a more personal approach, i.e.: a direct message. Cheers, Face 20:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

O RLY ?

Happy (belated if you are keeping track in UTC time) first edit day! –xeno (talk) 01:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 01:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

hehe, no problem! p.s. I see you picked up the "my reply here" thing (not sure if it was from me, or Useight, whom I stole it from...) I usually don't sign em (especially because I often link them in long after the fact), but to each 'is own, I guess! =) –xeno (talk) 01:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 01:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Question!

You know the 2 images i uploaded on the article right? what should I license it as? non-free VG image or (C) Some rights reserved 3.0 -something- ? Moogle 12 (talk) 10:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 11:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Anyword on that one article

Do you have anything to help me with that one article we discussed by e-mail?Yami (talk) 05:55, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 11:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

thank you Yami (talk) 23:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

question

what do i do if someone if going get me into an other edit war?

A user said that my removal of multiple images i find Miscellaneous and no benefit to the article "A major change" and is saying that i need consensus on it before it can make the change. they have undone two of my edits and one they have done twice. Yami (talk) 04:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

My reply here. Artichoker[talk] 11:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

But this person is the one reverting. he reverted my edit 2 times and when i issued him the eaid war warning he removed it and put "removed a comment from a troll" in the edit summary for his talk page. then he posted the message people post on new editors profiles as if i were a noob. I e-mailed Useight about his behavior. Yami (talk) 17:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The funny thing is I saw this comment before I checked my e-mail. Useight (talk) 17:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)