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Hey, it's a wiki. ;-) -- 109.41.128.103 (talk) 06:39, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Sometimes redirect pages are useful too. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:42, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Copied your userbox

hey, i thought it would be good to letting you know that I have copied one userbox for myself from the userboxes you say you have created.. I hope its ok with you... thanks Adamstraw99 (talk) 18:33, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

@Adamstraw99: No problem! Thanks for supporting. Actually userboxes are damn easy to make. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:00, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Television license

I see you've interfered with my revert to this article per WP:BRD. It is my understanding that I don't have to engage in any dialogue with the other user, present a rationale for my reversion, or in fact do anything but obstruct editing until they provide an absolute, irrefutable, logical argument from them for their change. Yet, you have decided to revert my change; has there been some change of policy? 87.254.75.22 (talk) 01:26, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, that was an obvious typo. No need to further discuss I think. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
No, I think there is. 87.254.75.22 (talk) 01:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Should I take "No need to further discuss, I think" that can be used by the general populace, or is it just you? 87.254.75.22 (talk) 01:30, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Then what to discuss? Only the spelling mistake? Pings:NewEnglandYankee Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:32, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
No no, I don't have to tell you the problem I found. You have to justify the change to me! You have not done so yet. 87.254.75.22 (talk) 01:33, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Justify what? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:36, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping. This is just another returning troll. Look at some of their other contributions, as well as some of the IPs who edit-warred at Atmospheric entry, and you'll see the pattern. Not worth engaging with them, in my opinion. NewEnglandYankee (talk) 01:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
@NewEnglandYankee: Nice. I knew it. I will treat it as vandalism. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:38, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
This is only precisely the behaviour that I have been taught as correct. Obviously only unimportant editors have to be at the brunt of it. 87.254.75.22 (talk) 01:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
One more unconstructive edit and WP:AIV. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:42, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

"Thank you for contributing..."

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

But they didn't contribute yet? --JustBerry (talk) 03:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@JustBerry: Maybe registering in Wikipedia is a contribution (AGF again). Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:08, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@JustBerry: I think the "Thank you for your contributions" part should be removed from the welcome template since it is targeted at newcomers which have 0 edits. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:12, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Not thats not true, they are for Newcomers who have contributed. --Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 03:13, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@Zppix: Ok I will remove the "User creation log" from my browser toolbar. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:15, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Generally, those welcome templates are to designed to welcome users who have made a constructive contribution to the article main space. For future reference, it may not be necessary to mass welcome newly registered users (in such a short time span). Best regards, JustBerry (talk) 03:16, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@JustBerry: Ok noted. Thanks for reminding me. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:17, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
I don't mean to harp on this, but I wanted to share something with you. Looking at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee: There are hundreds of thousands of users without any edits. It is widely accepted (but not required!) that users with no edits should not be welcomed to save on server resources and also because most templates start with "Thank you for your Contributions" (or similar). Furthermore, until edits are made, it's impossible to determine if the user has bad intentions, and created the account purposely to vandalize Wikipedia. You're right: it's not a hard rule. But, it's just common practice not to do so. --JustBerry (talk) 03:36, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@JustBerry: No worries. Lot of things to learn here. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Absolutely! I really appreciate your willingness to discuss. --JustBerry (talk) 03:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@JustBerry: Thanks! "If I make a mistake, please let me know." Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Slow the hell down.. lol

Dude you contribs seem to tell me you're like doing 200 edits a second... Calm the hell down --Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 03:12, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Zppix: Just sending welcomes, not a big deal. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:14, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Just slow down please.--Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 03:18, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@Zppix: Ok, maybe I focus on reverting vandalism from now on. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:19, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Madan Lal Gupta

It seems that you moved this autobiography out of draft space to user space. The autobiography had been submitted to AFC and was meant to be considered for article space. Please don't move AFC submissions from draft space to user space. They are better in draft space. The user wasn't just creating a user page about himself. He was trying to create an article about himself, and it needed declining. It complicates review when stuff is moved to help the reviewers that doesn't really help. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:28, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Actually that user submitted to AFC after I moved that to user draft space. But thanks for reminding me this. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 23:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 22, 2018)

Henri Nestlé was a German-born Swiss confectioner and the founder of Nestlé, the world's largest food and beverage company as of 2014.
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Question?

on the article Cherokee in the American Civil War, why does an infobox for a person directly copied from the article about him belong on the article if its not even related? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.101.51.217 (talk) 04:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

 Undone Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:14, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Ludwig the Bavarian

Earlier today you reverted one of my edits because you claimed it was not "constructive." I disagree. I belive calling an historical figure by the wrong name causes confusion. To be sure, although Louis and Ludwig share a common etymological origin, the two names have vastly different histories and given the prevalence of the name among the regents of the Wittelsbach family, calling him by the French cognate of the name obscures the historical significance of the name Ludwig. I think the use of the cognate in this instance is strange and unecessary, we don't use the name Louis to refer to any of the other Wittelsbachs of the same name, nor do we call Ludwig van Beethoven Louis Van Beethoven, for example. It is those who insist upon calling him Louis, not those who correctly call him Ludwig, who have the burden of justifying the misnomer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nawtrobar (talk • contribs) 10:26, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

@Nawtrobar: Firstly, please sign your message by typing (~~~~). Secondly, be civil even in edit summaries. Don't swear anywhere in wikipedia or we will assume bad faith in you. I reverted your edit because you harassed people who called "Ludwig"(according to you) Louis. Thirdly, I think you should use the talk page to discuss the matter. Edits without consensus is not that good. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:52, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now use global preferences on most wikis. This means you can set preferences for all wikis at the same time. Before this you had to change them on each individual wiki. Global preferences will come to the Wikipedias later this week. [1][2]
  • It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked. [3]
  • Wikidata now supports lexicographical data. This helps describe words.
  • There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups. [4]
  • Some rare invisible Unicode characters have recently been banned from page titles. This includes soft hyphens (U+00AD) and left-to-right (U+2066) and right-to-left (U+2067) isolate markers. Existing pages with these characters will soon be moved by a script. [5]
  • Advanced item There's a new Wikimedia Foundation team to support the Wikimedia technical communities. It's called the Technical Engagement team. Most of the team members did similar work in other teams before this. [6]

Problems

  • Some translatable pages are showing old translations instead of latest ones. The cause of this issue has been fixed. We will update all pages automatically to show the latest translations. [7]

Changes later this week

  • There will be a new special page named PasswordPolicies. This page gives information about the password rules for each user group on that wiki. [8]
  • A new way to see moved paragraphs in diffs is coming to most wikis. This is to make it easier to find the moved paragraphs and the changes in them. [9]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 May. It will be on all wikis from 31 May (calendar).
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  • Content Translation drafts which have not been updated in over a year will be removed. This allows other users to translate those articles. [11]
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  • Advanced item Some wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 30 May and 13 June. Wikis with fewer than 100 linter issues in the main namespace in all high-priority linter categories will switch. This includes Wikidata. Tidy will probably be removed on all wikis in the first week of July. [13][14]

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Wikidata weekly summary #314

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • IRC office hour, on May 29th at 18:00 (UTC+2, Berlin time), on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office. Special topic: Lexemes on Wikidata
  • Development
    • Deployed and activate WikibaseLexeme on wikidata.org so you can now store the first lexicographical data on Wikidata (phab:T191457)
    • Fixing the encoding issues on labels of items linked on Lexemes (phab:T195470, phab:T195359)
    • Fixed an issue that was preventing adding Forms and Lexemes in statements (phab:T195402)
    • Suppressed the browser's autocomplete that covers WikibaseLexeme's suggestion on Special:NewLexeme (phab:T195383, phab:T191526)
    • Worked on a bug about representation overwriting other representation with the same language code (phab:T193636)
    • Changed title of the field of a lemma language to make it less likely for people to add a translation as a second Lemma (phab:T193603)
    • Working on the RDF mapping of WikibaseLexeme (phab:T160260)
    • Working on implementing fulltext search for Lexemes (phab:T189739)
    • Working on showing Lemmas for linked Lexemes instead of just their ID on special pages like Special:AllPages (phab:T195382)
    • Fixing issues that happened after dropping an index from the wb_terms table (phab:T194270, phab:T195642, phab:T195611)
    • Made constraint check result appear directly after adding a new statement (phab:T194247)
    • Working on looking up entities by external identifiers on Special:Search (phab:T99899)
    • Added Docker image to Wikibase website (phab:T189936)
    • Added WikibaseImport script to Docker images to make it easier for people to start their own Wikibase install with some data imported from Wikidata (phab:T192080)

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Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw

Is there a reason you reverted my edit? You didn't bother to explain anything in the talk page. -- PaulxSA (talk) 11:48, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@PaulxSA: The name is "Machine of Death" indeed. It has a source too. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:14, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
"Machine of Death" is the name of an anthology in which Croshaw's story appears. It is not a book by Croshaw, a book of Croshaw's stories, nor a collection edited/published/etc by Croshaw. In such cases, common wiki practice is to list the name of the author's work as the primary title, with other factors (such as where it was published) being secondary. -- PaulxSA (talk) 12:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
@PaulxSA: Ok, but you need to change the sources since they are all about Machine of Death. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure there's a need for a reference there, since the book has its own article which has several references. -- PaulxSA (talk) 13:06, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Talk Page Design

Hello there. On your main page you say to leave a message here if you would like your talk page designed . So here i am. Thanks Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 13:24, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner: No, I said leave a message on my talk page (here) if you want me to design a USERBOX for you, not designing a talk page. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:39, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, thats what i meant. Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 13:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner: What kind of userbox do you want? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:54, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Anything really, my talk bage is ever so bare and yours looks really cool. Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 13:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner: Click here, are those what you want? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes please, they look ace. Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 13:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner: Details? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:01, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, im not sure what details you need but whatever you can do please. Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 14:04, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner: here are my designs, but you can fetch some more here Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:08, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, i like you design and i have found these also from the other list,

This user plays the synthesizer.
This user is a MIDI collector.
This user makes music.
This user considers themself as a music prodigy.
This user is a musician.

ThanksIjustwannabeawinner (talk) 14:19, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner: For me? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

No, for me too im not sure how to format or do this correctly yetIjustwannabeawinner (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner: There are multiple ways to add these userboxes to your user page. I recommend using Template:Userboxtop. You can take a look at my user page. (The part {{Userboxtop|Abelmoschus Esculentus}}) Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:39, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help my friend :) Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 07:07, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

No problem Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

If you get a chance could you see why there is a character underneath my user boxes, i dont seem to be able to get rid of them. Thanks Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 07:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

@Ijustwannabeawinner:  Fixed Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
@Ijustwannabeawinner: Actually userboxes are for user pages, not user talk pages. I suggest you to move your userboxes to your user page. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:20, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Cheers matey :) Ijustwannabeawinner (talk) 07:21, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

MPRWA

You recently reverted my edit to Merton Park Ward Residents Association because it didn't appear constructive. I have now synthesised my edit with what existed before, which I hope you will find acceptable. The article is a stub and has multiple issues, as the talk page also highlights. Matt 190417 (talk) 09:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in June. This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
  • The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team will build granular types of blocks in 2018 (e.g. a block from uploading or editing specific pages, categories, or namespaces, as opposed to a full-site block). Feedback on the concept may be left at the talk page.
  • There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
  • It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.

Arbitration

  • A recent technical issue with the Arbitration Committee's spam filter inadvertently caused all messages sent to the committee through Wikipedia (i.e. Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee) to be discarded. If you attempted to send an email to the Arbitration Committee via Wikipedia between May 16 and May 31, your message was not received and you are encouraged to resend it. Messages sent outside of these dates or directly to the Arbitration Committee email address were not affected by this issue.

Miscellaneous

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The sandbox

I would recommend not reverting edits made there unless they are very objectionable. The bot will clear it eventually. Cheers Jim1138 (talk)

@Jim1138: Thanks for notifying me. The IP is still not blocked yet lol. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:24, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately there do not seem to be enough admins... Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 09:40, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
@Jim1138: Have you checked out WT:RFA? Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:42, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
I am not admin material. Short attention span. Good for RCP is about all. Do need more RCPers too! I hope you apply and your application is successful! Jim1138 (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
@Jim1138: My account is only 88 days old..... Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 23, 2018)

Richard Rohr OFM (born 1943, pictured at podium) is an American Franciscan friar ordained in 1970. He is a known inspirational speaker and has published numerous recorded talks and books.
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Richard Rohr

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Neotenic complex syndrome

Hi there. I was wondering what you meant by "not constructive." The redirect (in first letter caps) should point to the article about the actual medical condition (that is shown lower-cased in scientific journals) instead of to a person diagnosed with the syndrome. Is that not correct? Gethralkin (talk) 03:46, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

eraser Undone Misclick. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #315

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • The API respond for maxlag will in the future also include the dispach lag (phab:T194950)
    • Add Elastic and CirrusSearch in the Wikibase Docker image (phab:T192813)
    • Add OAuth extension to wikibase bundle container (phab:TT192364)
    • Work on showing constraints in the QueryService (phab:T194762)
    • Make the PropertySuggester use CirrusSearch (phab:T195490)
    • Add integer constraint in the constraint checks (phab:T167989)
    • Add “citation needed” constraint type (phab:T195052)
    • Make Special:EntityData should handle form IDs (phab:T192149)
    • Fix encoding problems for labels displayed in Lexemes (phab:T195359)
    • Improve the text in the grammatical feature field (phab:T193604)
    • Work on showing Lemma on Special:AllPages and other pages (phab:T195382)
    • Work on better handling use of statements linking to Lexemes on client (phab:T195615)
    • Fix a bug that breaks Lexeme when language or lexical category items don't have a label (phab:)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


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