User talk:69.47.208.85

February 2021

Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to PredictIt, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. ----Rdp060707|Let's discuss about the plans 06:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

April 2021

Welcome to Wikipedia. Editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not appear to do at PredictIt. Here is Wikipedia's welcome page, and it is hoped that you will assume the good faith of other editors and continue to help us improve Wikipedia! Thank you very much! Bobbychan193 (talk) 00:21, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

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PredictIt

Please stop edit warring. The source here literally says "This business is not BBB accredited."

The main issue is this part: "They claim to be based in New Zealand, but their facebook page actually reveals that they are located in the Ukraine and Czech Republic." First, Facebook is not an appropriate citation (see WP:UGC). Second, I could not verify the claim based on the source given. There needs to be a different reliable source here, and I could not find one. Bobbychan193 (talk) 04:49, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

What you are saying is inaccurate... they do NOT have an F rating *because* they are unaccredited, they are unaccredited *because* they have an F rating. That simply is NOT how the Better Business Bureau functions, they give accreditation based on ratings, not the other way around. The way you word the sentence suggests that they have an F rating because of their unaccredited status, but that simply isn't true; The Better Business Bureau gives out ratings based on the volume of complaints and how a business responds to those complaints. In this case, PredictIt has failed to respond to more than 75% of the complaints filed against them, and THAT is the reason they have an F rating. And the F rating is the reason they are unaccredited. 69.47.208.85 (talk) 16:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Also, their facebook page SAYS "located in Ukraine and Czech Republic", this is not "original research" it says it on their facebook page. It is important for people to know their location for transparency reasons. It is important because their website claims they are located in the United States, but that simply is not true(as their facebook page reveals).69.47.208.85 (talk) 16:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying, I will look into it and edit it for greater clarity and accuracy. As for the location part, there needs to be a different reliable source here. Facebook (even their own) is not a reliable source. Bobbychan193 (talk) 20:23, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

They didnt post on their facebook page "we are from the czech republic and Ukraine", facebook pinged their IP address and revealed their location for transparency reasons.

So the source isnt just a facebook post about their location, the source is the IP address of the locations people signing into their page are posting from.

The source is the facebook transparency page which reveals their location, not just some post about it. So you are wrong about the source of information not being credible.

I didn't start an edit war, you did by deleting accurate information from credible sources.

Look at the page transparency section of their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PredictIt

I've looked at it, and there are still several inconsistencies with what was originally written on Wikipedia's PredictIt article:

1. The Facebook page says that PredictIt is the organization that manages the page, and it gives an address in Washington DC in the U.S.
2. I found the Czech Republic / Ukraine part. However, this part is based on the "primary countries and region locations of people who manage the page", NOT the organization itself. For the purposes of the article, this is extraneous and irrelevant information.
3. Furthermore, it actually lists the following locations: United States (5), Czech Republic (1), and Ukraine (1). And on top of this, it is unclear if this is due to them actually living there, or simply due to location/region preferences, or if they're using VPNs, and so on.

Thus, to claim that PredictIt is based in Czech Republic / Ukraine, just because 2 of the 7 people who manage their Facebook page are located there, is somewhat misleading and disingenuous. It's better to simply exclude this information from the article entirely. Bobbychan193 (talk) 03:14, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

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