User:Matchups/RfA Review Recommend Phase

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Questions[edit]

Selection and Nomination[edit]

A1. Editors note that the RfA process can be daunting to prospective administrators, and that the process itself may discourage otherwise qualified candidates from seeking adminship. How can this "Selection Bias" be countered?

  • Response: If you're daunted by the current process, you shouldn't be an admin. (I'm not an admin, but not for this.) But still, how about this:
    • Create an unofficial Admin Search Committee (ASC)
    • Provide them with tools to find potential admins (e.g., overall edit count combined with appropriate numbers of edits in various namespaces)
    • They can approach these people and suggest they apply
    • Also, anybody considering standing for RfA can approach the ASC and ask for consultation on their chances
    • In order to avoid potentially biasing the !?vote, ASC discussions might be best held off-wiki

A2. Editors expressed concern over unprepared or unqualified candidates at RfA, noting that their candidacies result in NOTNOW and SNOW closures that can be discouraging. In lieu of minimum requirements for adminship, how can prospective candidates be educated about RfA and the community's expectations of its administrators?

  • Response: As above. Also, let's have a page with info. Some would be stats: the average # of edits of the last 20 approved admins, how many of them were second attempts, etc. Plus some text: admins are expected to be familiar with policy, have experience participating in XFD, etc.

A3. 44 editors expressed concern over excessive co-nominations. Some of these editors advocated a limit on co-nominations, perhaps capping them at one or two per candidate; others recommended asking prospective co-nominators to post a Strong Support in lieu of an actual nomination statement. How can the concern over Co-nominations be addressed?

  • Response: I'm not familiar with this problem, but capping them seems fine.

The RfA Debate (Questions, Election, Canvassing)[edit]

B1. 60 editors expressed concern over the number of questions asked of candidates, and indicated that questions should be limited in number. How can this be accomplished? What limits could be fairly imposed? Are there alternative means for the candidate to provide information about themselves without the prompting of questions?

  • Response: Possibly the set of standard questions should be widened.

B2. Editors expressed concern over the content of questions, with 43 editors disapproving of "Trick questions", 8 disapproving of questions that require only a quotation from policy to answer, and 54 favoring questions that relate directly to the candidate and their experiences, contributions, conflicts, etc. How should the scope of possible questions be determined? Conversely, how would the decision to remove bad-faith or problematic questions be made, and by whom? What subjects should be specifically off-limits, and why?

  • Response: Should relate directly to the specific candidate. Anything else has already been specifically ruled out by the community by not being part of the standard set. Bad questions can be struck out by any editor. If there is further disagreement, take it to the talk page. Questions about off-wiki actions should be off-limits. Questions about old events (over a year) should be discouraged.

B3. Editors note that RfA is seen as a negative process, with issues such as badgering of opposes, personal attacks, and a general lack of civility being prominent concerns. How can the RfA process be changed to address these concerns?

  • Response: No comment.

B4. The very nature of the RfA process was disputed. Some editors desire rationales with every vote, and favor a more discussion and consensus-based process similar to other processes on the English wikipedia. Other editors desire a more vote-based election, where the raw numbers of supports and opposes are the critical factor. Is there one of these methods that would provide a clearer consensus on the community's view of a candidate? Or, alternatively, is a hybrid of the two preferable, and how should that be structured?

  • Response: Like it is now. Pretty much a vote, but rationales are welcome and can help your cause.

B5. The amount of discretion held by Bureaucrats to remove or discount problem votes was also discussed, with some editors favoring increased discretion for Bureaucrats. 25 editors also favored a detailed closing rationale from Bureaucrats, detailing the specific factors that resulted in the candidate being successful (or not successful). What changes to the RfA process or format could clarify community consensus on this issue? Should Bureaucrats take a more active role in managing (or clerking) ongoing RfAs?

  • Response: There should be a closing rationale. In some cases, "93% support" is okay. Sometimes, "failed, 90% support, but many of those were--as the editor is--members of WikiProject Foo, and the most experienced editors all voted oppose."

B6. 68 editors noted that a limited form of Canvassing or advertising would be acceptable, if such canvassing was done on-site and in a neutral fashion. How could a candidate advertise the fact that he or she is a candidate for adminship, while being completely neutral in the audience to which he or she advertises?

  • Response: A notice on your user page is okay. I can't think of anything else that would be.

Training and Education[edit]

C1. Though 73 editors responded favorably to the Admin Coaching programme, 39 were critical of the process for "Teaching for the test", or for being an RfA preparation programme rather than an Adminship preparation programme. In what ways could Admin Coaching be improved to focus more on adminship itself?

  • Response: No comment

C2. In evaluating New Admin School, some editors noted that a Mentorship element would be of great benefit to newly minted administrators - something that Admin Coaching provides in a direct one-on-one coach-coachee team. Similarly, 15 editors characterized Admin Coaching, a primarily pre-adminship process, as being invaluable after the RfA, which is traditionally when New Admin School is used for training. Are there areas where the two processes overlap, and can be made more complimentary? Are there common themes or elements that could be shared between the two processes, in order to improve the effectiveness of both?

  • Response: No comment

Adminship (Removal of)[edit]

D1. Editors noted that the current voluntary Admins open to Recall process is redundant to Dispute Resolution process such as Requests for Comment and Arbitration. In the absence of Recall (i.e. if it were removed altogether), how could existing processes be adapted to more effectively deal with issues of administrator abuse?

  • Response: Mandatory recall process

D2. Editors cited the voluntary nature of the Admins open to Recall process as problematic, and 40 went as far as to recommend a mandatory process for all administrators, either as a mandatory form of Admins open to Recall, or a more formal version of the process administered by Bureaucrats. As a separate process from WP:DR, how could the current recall process be standardized for use as a mandatory process? Who would be responsible for such a process?

  • Response: Standardized by the community and the crats would be responsible.

D3. 44 editors criticized the recall process for being too open to abuse, both through spurious or bad-faith calls for an admin to be recalled, or through administrators who fail to follow through on a commitment to stand for recall. How can the recall process be amended to address these concerns?

  • Response: If it's mandatory and enforced by crats, the latter issue should go away. It shouldn't be "if X editors call for an admin to step down" but a AFR process. Maybe there is a first step where you write privately to an admin: "I think you should step down because XYZ. I am concerned about this and if you don't do it voluntarily, I will open an AFR." Repeated bad faith nominations are dealt with via the standard DR process.

D4. Some editors recommended that administrators be required to stand for some form of reconfirmation after a given period of time. How would such reconfirmation be structured? How long would an admin have before such reconfirmation would be required? Could such reconfirmation be triggered by an effort to recall an admin, and how would that be handled? What form would such reconfirmation take (RfA, Straw Poll, etc)?

  • Response: No, don't. Let's see how an improved recall process works before taking on this new mess.

Overall Process[edit]

E1. The earliest version of the RfA policy states that adminship is granted to "anyone who has been an active Wikipedia contributor for a while and is generally a known and trusted member of the community."[1] Current policy leaves the definition of a "trusted editor" to the community. Editors offered a wide range of basic characteristics desirable of administrators, including Trustworthiness, competence, and communication skills. How could the RfA process be amended to either A) more fully ensure that editors selected as admins do indeed have the full trust of the community, or B) more fully fit the community's expectations for administrators?

  • Response: I don't believe changes other than as discussed above are needed.

E2. Editors expressed concern over the format of the Requests for Adminship process. Some suggested that RfA has become a form of high-impact editor review, while others expressed concern over the view of Adminship itself as a goal or "trophy" that all editors should attain after a certain period of time. In taking the RfA process as a whole, what elements work well? What elements should be removed or amended?

  • Response: Hmmm. Probably not worth it, but maybe there is some other special status like "Great Editor" that focuses only on encyclopedic (and not anti-vandalism, DR, XFZ, etc) so people wouldn't have to aspire to <* ADMINSHIP *>.

Once you're finished...[edit]

Thank you again for taking part in this review of the Request for Adminship process.

Your responses will be added to Category:Wikipedian Recommendations to RfA Review, which will be used to review the responses after this phase is concluded.

Footnote[edit]

  1. ^ "Requests for adminship". 2003-06-14.

This question page was generated by {{RFAReview}} at 03:07 on 23 September 2008.