User:Mark Chung/RfA review Recommend Phase

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Welcome to the Recommendation phase of RfA Review. In this phase, you will be asked to offer suggestions and proposals to address specific concerns and problems with the current Requests for Adminship process.

The questions below are taken directly from the 209 responses from the Question phase, each of which offered editors' thoughts and concerns about RfA. Based on those concerns, we identified the most frequently mentioned problems and included them here. These are the elements of RfA that are currently under review.

Please take your time and read through the concerns below. For each item, you are invited to offer a proposal that addresses the concern. Where possible, you are encouraged to provide examples, references, diffs and so on in order to support your viewpoint. There isn't a limit on the scope of your proposals; the sky is the limit, here. The intent of this phase is to get ideas, not necessarily to write policy - recommendations that gain traction and community support will be refined during later phases.

Most importantly, Answer as few or as many questions as you wish. All responses are evaluated, so any information you provide is helpful.

If you prefer, you can submit your responses anonymously by emailing them to User:Ultraexactzz. Anonymous responses will be posted as subpages with the contributor's details removed. If you have any questions, please use the project talk page at Wikipedia talk:RfA Review.

Once you've provided your responses, please encourage other editors to take part in the review. We stress that editors who didn't participate in the question phase are encouraged to participate now - more responses will improve the quality of research, as well as increasing the likelihood of producing meaningful results.

Once again, thank you for taking part!

Questions[edit]

Selection and Nomination[edit]

A1. Editors note that the RfA process can be daunting to prospective administrators, and that the process itself may discourage otherwise qualified candidates from seeking adminship. How can this "Selection Bias" be countered?

  • Response: Well, when there are vines, there are thorns. Everything has its negative part. But I think maybe the questions should be not too strict. The scariest portion of the RfA process is the huge number of questions "pointed" to candidates. As it currently stands, most candidates feel pressure to respond to all of the questions. I hope that the community can reach consensus that it's not necessary to answer an unreasonable number of questions.I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

A2. Editors expressed concern over unprepared or unqualified candidates at RfA, noting that their candidacies result in NOTNOW and SNOW closures that can be discouraging. In lieu of minimum requirements for adminship, how can prospective candidates be educated about RfA and the community's expectations of its administrators?

  • Response: Well, the newsletters can be useful. There should be a bot giving links about basic guides for RfA and its processes for non admins (put it on top of their talk page).I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

A3. 44 editors expressed concern over excessive co-nominations. Some of these editors advocated a limit on co-nominations, perhaps capping them at one or two per candidate; others recommended asking prospective co-nominators to post a Strong Support in lieu of an actual nomination statement. How can the concern over Co-nominations be addressed?

  • Response: Well,sorry I can't help. I know nothing about these.

The RfA Debate (Questions, Election, Canvassing)[edit]

B1. 60 editors expressed concern over the number of questions asked of candidates, and indicated that questions should be limited in number. How can this be accomplished? What limits could be fairly imposed? Are there alternative means for the candidate to provide information about themselves without the prompting of questions?

  • Response: As an editor, I heard that the process is rather harsh. Well, maybe only 1 questions may be asked about each category. Avoid similar questions. The edit history, edit count and block log may be useful. I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

B2. Editors expressed concern over the content of questions, with 43 editors disapproving of "Trick questions", 8 disapproving of questions that require only a quotation from policy to answer, and 54 favoring questions that relate directly to the candidate and their experiences, contributions, conflicts, etc. How should the scope of possible questions be determined? Conversely, how would the decision to remove bad-faith or problematic questions be made, and by whom? What subjects should be specifically off-limits, and why?

  • Response: Well, you asked so many questions that I don't know which to answer first! Never mind, I'll answer them in order. The scope should be about their contributions, how to response to vandal, how are they going to contribute etc. The questions should only be made by admins, bureaucrats etc. Questions that require only a quotation from policy to answer should be avoided because the answer would not be theirs as they only copy from the policy. I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

B3. Editors note that RfA is seen as a negative process, with issues such as badgering of opposes, personal attacks, and a general lack of civility being prominent concerns. How can the RfA process be changed to address these concerns?

  • Response: Refer above. Ask better questions. I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

B4. The very nature of the RfA process was disputed. Some editors desire rationales with every vote, and favor a more discussion and consensus-based process similar to other processes on the English wikipedia. Other editors desire a more vote-based election, where the raw numbers of supports and opposes are the critical factor. Is there one of these methods that would provide a clearer consensus on the community's view of a candidate? Or, alternatively, is a hybrid of the two preferable, and how should that be structured?

  • Response: Sorry, I don't understand.

B5. The amount of discretion held by Bureaucrats to remove or discount problem votes was also discussed, with some editors favoring increased discretion for Bureaucrats. 25 editors also favored a detailed closing rationale from Bureaucrats, detailing the specific factors that resulted in the candidate being successful (or not successful). What changes to the RfA process or format could clarify community consensus on this issue? Should Bureaucrats take a more active role in managing (or clerking) ongoing RfAs?

  • Response: Maybe they should. I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

B6. 68 editors noted that a limited form of Canvassing or advertising would be acceptable, if such canvassing was done on-site and in a neutral fashion. How could a candidate advertise the fact that he or she is a candidate for adminship, while being completely neutral in the audience to which he or she advertises?

  • Response: Maybe just plain notes on talk page (but avoid bribes such as "I'll give you a barnstar if you vote me").I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

Training and Education[edit]

C1. Though 73 editors responded favorably to the Admin Coaching programme, 39 were critical of the process for "Teaching for the test", or for being an RfA preparation programme rather than an Adminship preparation programme. In what ways could Admin Coaching be improved to focus more on adminship itself?

  • Response: In my opinion, that is plain dudely simple. All you have to do is mention the original purpose on the Admin Coaching page and make it quite visible (into a red template). I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

C2. In evaluating New Admin School, some editors noted that a Mentorship element would be of great benefit to newly minted administrators - something that Admin Coaching provides in a direct one-on-one coach-coachee team. Similarly, 15 editors characterized Admin Coaching, a primarily pre-adminship process, as being invaluable after the RfA, which is traditionally when New Admin School is used for training. Are there areas where the two processes overlap, and can be made more complementary? Are there common themes or elements that could be shared between the two processes, in order to improve the effectiveness of both?

  • Response: Well, I can't think of anything more. This is good enough, I suppose. I'm not very experienced in these, so please notify me and don't laugh at me if I'm wrong...

Adminship (Removal of)[edit]

D1. Editors noted that the current voluntary Admins open to Recall process is redundant to Dispute Resolution process such as Requests for Comment and Arbitration. In the absence of Recall (i.e. if it were removed altogether), how could existing processes be adapted to more effectively deal with issues of administrator abuse?

  • Response: There should be a way for editors to request admin check-ups. If 3 or more editors request a check-up on an admin, it goes to the greater community to vote on whether or not the admin is abusing their powers. If a consensus is found that they are, they will have their powers removed or cancelled.

D2. Editors cited the voluntary nature of the Admins open to Recall process as problematic, and 40 went as far as to recommend a mandatory process for all administrators, either as a mandatory form of Admins open to Recall, or a more formal version of the process administered by Bureaucrats. As a separate process from WP:DR, how could the current recall process be standardized for use as a mandatory process? Who would be responsible for such a process?

  • Response: As I answered the question above, it should be the similar type of situation as the RfA process... It should be open to every editors to decide whether a recall should happen or not.

D3. 44 editors criticized the recall process for being too open to abuse, both through spurious or bad-faith calls for an admin to be recalled, or through administrators who fail to follow through on a commitment to stand for recall. How can the recall process be amended to address these concerns?

  • Response: Refer above.

D4. Some editors recommended that administrators be required to stand for some form of reconfirmation after a given period of time. How would such reconfirmation be structured? How long would an admin have before such reconfirmation would be required? Could such reconfirmation be triggered by an effort to recall an admin, and how would that be handled? What form would such reconfirmation take (RfA, Straw Poll, etc)?

  • Response: Sorry, I don,t know much about this so I can't help.

Overall Process[edit]

E1. The earliest version of the RfA policy states that adminship is granted to "anyone who has been an active Wikipedia contributor for a while and is generally a known and trusted member of the community."[1] Current policy leaves the definition of a "trusted editor" to the community. Editors offered a wide range of basic characteristics desirable of administrators, including Trustworthiness, competence, and communication skills. How could the RfA process be amended to either A) more fully ensure that editors selected as admins do indeed have the full trust of the community, or B) more fully fit the community's expectations for administrators?

  • Response: ...

E2. Editors expressed concern over the format of the Requests for Adminship process. Some suggested that RfA has become a form of high-impact editor review, while others expressed concern over the view of Adminship itself as a goal or "trophy" that all editors should attain after a certain period of time. In taking the RfA process as a whole, what elements work well? What elements should be removed or amended?

  • Response: ...

Once you're finished...[edit]

Thank you again for taking part in this review of the Request for Adminship process.

Your responses will be added to Category:Wikipedian Recommendations to RfA Review, which will be used to review the responses after this phase is concluded.

Footnote[edit]

  1. ^ "Requests for adminship". 2003-06-14.

This question page was generated by {{RFAReview}} at 03:16 on 26 September 2008.