Talk:Yukon/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Services In Yukon

It would be helpful to put in a section on hospitals, doctors, dentists and other such social services in the territory. Other aspects of having to live in a remote place, such as cable TV, Internet providers etc, would be helpful 99.53.171.95 (talk) 08:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)eric

Is postcode realy YK? ISO 3166 is CA-YT.

History Section

Where is it? -- Mwanner | Talk 01:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Mostly in my head? :-) I've been intending ot write it for a long time, but haven't got around to it yet. If someone else wants to do it, please go ahead. Luigizanasi 05:35, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

YT vs. YK

YK is used for internet domain names. (example: gov.yk.ca)

YT is used in postal addresses. (example: Whitehorse YT Y1A 1A1) rose

YK is becoming very popular in postal addresses as well. OZLAWYER talk 22:07, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

True, but Canada Post lists the official code as YT.

This has to do with the whole "Territory" discussion above. They govenment doesn't like to think of itself as a territory, so a Y instead of a T. The postal code system predates the debate. --Anonymous^'4

Cleanup tag under 20th century history

It would be appreciated if someone with a bit more knowledge about the Yukon cleaned up that section. Its not even a complete sentence. --tomf688^{talk} 04:07, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

There you go, you spurred me on. :-) Luigizanasi 05:44, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Boundaries

The Alaska Boundary Dispute seems to be part of the answer, but how were the boundaries of the territory determined? -- Beland 01:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, the Southern Boundary would have been already defined by British Columbia's Northern boundary prior to Yukon being split off for the Northwest Territories. What's less clear is the Eastern boundary, but this appears to be a range of mountain peaks; maybe even the contiential divide. Jon 13:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

"Rank Among Provinces"

In the population table, the rightmost column ("Rank Among Provinces") seems poorly named. For something to rank 12th among provinces, there should be 12 provinces. There are not. The column really doesn't convey very much information anyways, so I suggest deletion of the column. --Ds13 07:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Yukon Territory vs. Yukon

I've heard that we're no longer called the "Yukon Territory" and is now just simply the "Yukon". Anyone know what's behind this? PS, the postal code is Y1A number-letter-number unsigned comment by User:Supermal, 30 August 2006

True as of the passage of the Yukon Act by the federal parliament in 2003. It's now officially just "Yukon". Luigizanasi 05:56, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

hi

I am a student having trouble reaserching yukon. Can you please include a link leading to a list of buisnesses?

Just go to the territories official website. Hope that helped! —Preceding unsigned comment added by RebaFan1996 (talk • contribs) 21:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

boundary dispute

can someone discuss the boundary dispute between Yukon & alaska at that time? at that time, Canada was a part of the english emprier. Jackzhp 22:52, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Indeed this dispute should be discussed, but not on this general Yukon article, but very YES on the main History article. I'll look into this tomorrow--Tallard 09:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Geography section

What happened to the geography section which is in this version of the article? /Grillo 21:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I reinstated it, it seems odd to not even link to Geography of the Yukon in this article. /Grillo 21:24, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Unclear wording

What is ment by "All Yukon communities are accessible by mostly paved roads..."? Does it mean that most communities are accesible by paved roads but some only by gravel roads. Or does it mean that the the communites are accessible by roads that are for the most part paved but parts of them are gavel. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Demographics page

I'm posting here because that page does not seem to have its own discussion page. I have added some demographic data there but I would like to clean up some of the older tables as well but I don't want to change it without checking first. There is some data there that seems pretty useless to me such as provincial ranking, both 5 and 10 year percentage changes, and an overabudance of data about male:female ratios without any clear rationale. Does anyone mind if I do a severe edit of those other tables (while still keeping all interesting data)? Paulalexdij (talk) 18:24, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Name Question

Does anyone call this Canadian Territory "Yukon"? I've heard "The Yukon Territory", "The Yukon", and sometimes "Yukon Territory" as a label on a map. I can't imagine someone saying they're "going to Yukon" or "live in Yukon". --Anonymous¹

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.46.238.137 (talk) 06:07, 16 September 2004 (UTC)

The government uses "Yukon" (no article), and I've heard Yukoners use it. - Montréalais

Old-timers call it "The Yukon" , which highlights uniqueness of our territory. Government and Politically Correct types use "Yukon"..definitely uncool. --Anonymous²

In the '80's the Penikett government committed to officially naming the territory "The Yukon," but never delivered. At the time the definite article was the standard, but since then there has been a general trend away from its use. --Anonymous³

A few years ago the government officially changed the name from "Yukon Territory" to "Yukon". It passed an omnibus bill that changed the name in every statute that ever mentioned Yukon Territory. That is the correct name, though, as you say -- not widely used yet. -- User:Sesmith

Most people call it "The Yukon" or "The Yukon Territory." The government changed it to always exclude the "The" and "Territory" for egotistical reasons - they don't like to think of themselves as being a territory and would rather be a province. But common usage should define what the name is here. For instance, all media sources still say "The Yukon Territory." --Anonymous^'4

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.126.97.123 (talk) 17:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Error in Map

The longitudes shown on the large map of the Yukon on this page are back to front! They should get greater from east to west (because it's in the Western hemisphere). This map shows them getting greater from west to east.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.69.155 (talk) 22:10, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

THE Yukon?

I know it's discussed earlier in this talk page, but if the official designation is Yukon (not the Yukon), should the article not be changed to reflect that in the way the grammar is written? IE:

Mount Logan and a large part of the Yukon's southwest are...

Should be:

Mount Logan and a large part of Yukon's southwest are...

Just like it would be if it were Ontario or Quebec? TheHYPO (talk) 04:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board/Style guide#Territories. Either is ok in the article. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 08:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Canada's 11th province

Even if is generally felt that its population base is too sparse for this to occur at present, still the territory with higest density, and the population is higest that Nunavut or Labrador.

Yucon 33,442 (est.)/ 482,443 km2 Density 0.065 /km²

NWT 42,940 (est.)/ 1,346,106 km2 Density 0.037 /km²

Nunavut 31,556 (est.)/ 2,093,190 km2 Density 0.015 /km²

Labrador 26,364/ 269,073.3 km²

Labrador is part of a province with over 500 000 residence —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordo72 (talk • contribs) 23:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.197.95.10 (talk) 21:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Category:Provinces and territories of Canada vs. Category:Yukon

Category:Yukon is itself a category within Category:Provinces and territories of Canada. — Robert Greer (talk) 12:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Yukon River?

The photograph with the title "Yukon River" is, in fact, not the Yukon river at all. Shown is Bove Island on Tagish Lake at the junction of Windy Arm and Nares Lake arm. A scenic lookout was added at this point when the South Klondike highway was upgraded in the early 1980's. Interestingly, a similar picture of Bove Island taken from the same scenic lookout can be seen on the "Tagish Lake" Wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nexussixthree (talk • contribs) 18:27, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Ethnicity either mathematically impossible or innacurate

The sum of the ethnicities is 118.1%, and since a populations can not be larger than it is, this is incorrect. It may be that the numbers are wrong, the census was wrong, or the census is reported here inaccurately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.52.237.88 (talk) 21:52, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You were correct to point out the discrepancy. Because the Canadian census allows for multiple answers of our own composition, there is no limit to the number of ethnicities that can appear. A population of 30,000 gave 118,000 total answers, without the original data set we can not surmise the exact partition of multiple vs single ethnicity.--Tallard (talk) 15:18, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

All numbers are available at Stats can 2006 Community Profiles would be better to use 2006 numbers over 2001 numbers. Moxy (talk) 15:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

The new wording reflects the 2006 data, as referenced.--Tallard (talk) 20:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Reordering

I have ordered and grouped the sections in a way that seems consistent with a majority of the Province articles. I intend to do the same with the other 9 plus territories unless someone disputes this. Verne Equinox (talk) 01:05, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Popular media

"In popular media, the Yukon is often recognized for its connection to the Canadian television program Yvon of the Yukon." Hardly anyone remembers this show and NO ONE besides a regressive manchild thinks of the show when they hear about the Yukon. Why is this mentioned within the first few paragraphs? This should be under "Media depicting the Yukon" or some such header somewhere at the bottom of the article.

I don't even know if "Depictions of the Yukon" is a part of the article because I read "Yvon of the Yukon" pretty much out of the gate and thought the maybe the whole of the Yukon was really proud of a vancouver produced show which lampoons them. Guess what i'm saying is that the whole of the Yukon must be brimming over with adult babies obsessed with cartoons and now i've lost interest in caring at all about what happens up there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.17.104.177 (talk) 12:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Removed as unsourced trivia, didn't belong in lead section. Vsmith (talk) 13:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

"Alternate Name"

Yukon does not have any alternate name (not even in French), so the template has left the words "alternate name" visible instead. Could someone who knows how to edit templates remove it? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.139.41 (talk) 06:09, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Formatting problem

In the section on "Language", I see two problems with the formatting: 1) the text is too close to the box with the figures. 2) There is a lot of white/blank space after the text in this section. I don't know how to fix these problems. Perhaps someone can do that.CorinneSD (talk) 21:39, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

How does it look now? It is certainly an improvement. Hwy43 (talk) 05:55, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Wow! That's clever! I haven't seen that done (hiding a chart or table and letting the reader click on "Show" if he or she wants to see it) very often. It certainly looks neater, but I wonder whether there were not a way to show the table but with less white space below it than there was. Do you think the information in the table is not of great interest? I notice that it is from a 2006 census, and it is now 2014, so perhaps a little out of date. Also, I see that there is quite a bit of white space below or next to the tables in several other sections such as "Communities". I don't think the tables should be hidden. Perhaps they could be formatted in such a way that there is less white space below them. What do you think?CorinneSD (talk) 15:43, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I believe I collapsed the table last night only because the image a couple subsections below was forcing whitespace and I didn't want to get into rearranging images throughout the article. The data should be updated to reflect the 2011 census results. I'm not sure how to wrap text around tables in a manner that resolves your first concern above. Perhaps you could inquire at Wikipedia:Help desk, Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions or Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Tables. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 18:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the auto-collapsing (still should be updated) on the table and stretched some stuff out to fill the whitespace and make the overall appearance better. I'm using a non-standard resolution on my screen, so what looks good to me might be horrible to others. I'll be watching and can adjust it further if you think it is needed. I'll look in a couple days on my laptop and a university computer which both use more normal resolutions. Technical 13 (talk) 00:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

(Edit conflict.)To: Technical 13: Thanks for your reply. With all due respect for your technical know-how, I don't think stretching that small table horizontally looks very good. I would put it back the way it was. Also, there is a lot of white space to the right of tables in the sections on "Ethnicity" and "First Nations". Isn't there any way to wrap the text around the tables? I would love to learn how to do that.CorinneSD (talk) 00:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

The biggest problem is that there is a lack of text to fill in all the white space. I put Ethnicity back and I hadn't touched First Nations but have now made some adjustments to the formatting there to do what I think you are asking for. It's very specific html/css formatting and I really don't like leaving it like that. I'll do some research in the next few days to see if I can find a better way to do it. Anyways.. let me know if you like the way it is going or would like it to go another way. I'm going to bed for tonight, so my next reply won't be for ea few hours (I plan on sleeping in, it is Sunday after all... :P). Technical 13 (talk) 01:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I've removed misplaced images that were getting in the way and introduced some columns to minimize whitespace. Not much we can do with the final communities table without any text. Hwy43 (talk) 07:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Check that. I've transcluded an updated table of municipalities to replace that table and included an image. Hwy43 (talk) 07:19, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be some unnecessary white space between the two tables in the "Languages" section. The two tables seem far apart. Also, in the "First Nations" section, something is wrong with the table. There are thin lines (probably extensions of borders) sticking up and down, one at the lower left and one at the upper left, one column in. Also, I think the height of the rows is too small; the rows are too narrow (in height). I'm sorry – all I can do is tell you what it looks like. I don't know how to format.CorinneSD (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

In the First Nations section, I actually intentionally squished the lines. Otherwise the text only filled up about 60% of the height of the table leaving a big chunk of whitespace. This squishing can be adjusted by adjusting the "line-height: .9em;" at the top of the table. Corinne, keep in mind that this will look different for every user, and that white space you see between tables and whatnot may look crowded to others. I would suggest either removing some more of the images entirely or adding them in a gallery at the bottom of the page, this would make the amount of text and tables much more manageable. I believe that collapsing the tables is frowned upon per WP:COLLAPSE, if I've read it correctly, and we should try to avoid that. Technical 13 (talk) 18:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

O.K. I understand (about it looking different to different people because of differences in computer screen, etc.). I wonder how that table in "First Nations" would look if you widened it -- particularly the first and third columns. I notice that some of the lines of text were too long for the width of the column and so wrapped around and went to a second line of text in the cell. If you widen the first and third columns so that all text appears on only one line, then the table would be shorter top-to-bottom. Then you could either put the table under the text that now appears to the left of the table or leave it where it is but make the text be in a narrower space to the left of the table. I know how to do all this in Word but not here.CorinneSD (talk) 19:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the style formatting applied to the table in question to show the resulting whitespace that will be generated. I prefer removal of the style formatting from the table. Hwy43 (talk) 19:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Ahh... So that was what that edit conflict was about. I've modified it further, and think it looks okay this way on my screen now. How about both of you? Technical 13 (talk) 19:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I like what Technical 13 just did. CorrineSD, moving forward, this is what Wikipedia help says about WP:WHITESPACE. Hwy43 (talk) 19:49, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

"First Nations" looks great now, both the text and the table! Is there any chance you could move the two tables in "Language" closer together? Thanks for the link, Hwy43.CorinneSD (talk) 22:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

If we move them closer together, it is only going to push the whitespace to the right of the right-most table. As every user has different browsers at different screen resolutions, I suggest the existing state is the best option. Hwy43 (talk) 22:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

O.K.CorinneSD (talk) 22:37, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Corinne, I've made a change to the Language that I hope suits your tastes. Technical 13 (talk) 00:07, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks all right. Thank you.CorinneSD (talk) 00:13, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

It looked too cluttered. Hwy43 (talk) 00:20, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Further, sandwiching text is discouraged. MOS:SANDWICH states "Avoid sandwiching text between two images that face each other, and between an image and an infobox or similar." In this case, two tables are at play rather than two images or an image and another feature. Hwy43 (talk) 00:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking that, too, but didn't want to complain any more.CorinneSD (talk) 00:38, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Corinne and Hwy43, I shuffled stuff around a bit more, and the prose is no longer sammiched between the tables and there is no 40% gap of whitespace between them either. I hope this is an okay compromise. :) Technical 13 (talk) 01:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Looks sloppy and remains sandwiched between table and right margin. Hwy43 (talk) 01:21, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I think it looks better that it did before. May I make two suggestions?

1) I would put the text to the left of the two tables. It just seems more logical to have the text at the left.

2) I noticed that in the table on "First Nations linguistic groups by tribes/clans", there is some white space to the right of the text and figures in all the rows. Thus, the table, specifically the right side, could be moved in, and the table made narrower. That table looks rather large compared to the other table and the text. So, if these two changes are made, I think the section will look better.CorinneSD (talk) 21:09, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

The text pushed to the right of the two tables definitely has to go. It is counterintuitive. The first suggestion above would resolve the counterintuitive concern, though my other concerns and my preference with the two tables in just two columns remains. This seems like a lot of futile effort to minimize whitespace for a "combination of screen/window and font sizes, choice of browser, image settings, and so on" that may only be of benefit to a few editors. I'll leave it to you two to decide where to go from here. Hwy43 (talk) 08:23, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Template produces poor PDF (print) output

PDF output using Google Chrome's built-in distiller produces poor results with this page. (Use the Ctrl P command in Chrome to preview). Issue may be with the template used or (more likely) the the way content was entered (coded) into the template and saved by the contributor. For example, when printing this article with Google's PDF printer, the font size is scaled down too much, and the info-box column on the right side is scaled to less than 45% of the total page width. Note that the font size should not dynamically scale up or down to fit a page; font size of the main-body text content should be about 12 points on outputted PDF page(s); it is the images and table cells that should dynamically scale up or down to fit the info box and template in order to maintain the two-column Wikipedia layout. Refer to these Wikipedia articles for a proper printer-friendly layout -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut Printchecker (talk) 19:16, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Official languages

Why aborigine languages don't have official status in Yukon, but in Northwest Territories have?--Kaiyr (talk) 10:57, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

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