Talk:You're Beautiful

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Former good article nomineeYou're Beautiful was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
March 15, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed

Bob Dylan[edit]

This is a Bob Dylan Song! sixstringsdown — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.245.172.60 (talk) 13:12, 17 February 2012 (UTC) not really... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.21.94 (talk) 20:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dixie Chassay[edit]

In an interview with Cambridge University's Varsity paper, Dixie Chassay confirmed that it was about her, as his ex-girlfriend. Saccerzd 13:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks Saccerzd; unfortunately, you have not provided a link or a specific enough reference. Could you please do so? Because there are WP:BLP implications (especially by adding Tom Hollander's name), I think we need to include that there. I will also contact you on your talk page. Risker 14:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.varsity.cam.ac.uk/arts/424/1/ - interview with her, cambridge uni newspaper. could somebody tell me how to add a superscript link to wiki in the style needed for references and citations? thanks Saccerzd 01:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


According to IMDb, Fandango, and other sources, Dixie Chassay was a casting *assistant* on ONE Harry Potter film. --67.209.29.64 (talk) 15:24, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Depiction of suicide?[edit]

He sings about "the end", brings his belongings in order and jumps off a high cliff... (clem 14:00, 26 September 2005 (UTC))[reply]

In the beginning of the song, he also says that he won't lose any sleep over the whole thing because he has "a plan," which he never elaborates on in the lyrics. --Wikipedia User 23:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure he's not worrying because his death with end the heartache. The song really can't be any clearer.

The stuff about the video intending to represent a Japanese-style suicide is the author's original opinion, not supported by the link. And the idea that the song is about suicide to begin with is based simply on one blogger's opinion. In the Making Of video (on YouTube), the director says, "[T]he idea [of the video] is built around the last line, where he says, 'I'll never be with you,' and that idea of completely forgetting about something, of getting rid of that emotion, and moving on, and I think that the video is a sort of visual manifestation of that emotion." So there is someone who is in a better position to speculate on the meaning of the song and the best position to know the intended meaning of the video than a random blogger who disagrees with the suicide angle. It's fine to mention that some interpret it as a suicide song as long as you don't imply that this is, hands-down, the only and the official interpretation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.47.179.249 (talk) 02:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

After examining [1], i think the page has been improved enough. I am removing the cleanup tag. --ʀ6ʍɑʏ89 15:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong song information[edit]

The song isn't about Blunt's ex-girlfriend, it's about an unknown woman he sees on the subway by chance. They have never met before. MRB 16:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please provide a citation or source for your claim? If I'm not mistaken, Blunt has made it clear that he wrote the song about a former lover. —Eternal Equinox | talk 14:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have tidied the article and added notes and references of sorts. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:18, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[2] (Review by a music journalist specializing in pop and dance music): ...an achingly gorgeous song about love at first sight that remains unfulfilled. If it were a song about an ex-girlfriend, it wouldn't be about love at first sight and the sentence But it's time to face the truth / I will never be with you would make no sense (it would have to be: I will never be with you again). In your reference [3], the interpretation is not given by Blunt himself, but by a journalist (so Blunt himself doesn't make it clear the song is about a former lover). MRB 10:11, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In an April 2006 interview [4] with Andrew Denton in Australia, he did in fact make it clear that the song was inspired by a glimpse of his ex-girlfriend with her new man (though not on the Underground). Stu 12:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(Sorry - just saw the interview again, and I think the transcript may be incorrect - should probably be "on the Underground" rather than "not on the Underground", although it is indistinct. Stu 22:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Stuff[edit]

I have removed the line 'the song is noted for its rhythm', as it is not. Also: why does the chart section list only successful (i.e. top 10) chart listing, the song peaked in the top 20 on the Billboard hot 100 airplay chart, and I am sure this page used to say so, so why has it been removed. Finally, 'debut' and 'debuted' are normally not written with an 'é'. [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.93.21.65 (talk • contribs)

The charts section was becoming rather lengthy. It is not relevant to list unimportant chart positions such as the airplay when it peaked within the top twenty. Also, not every Billboard chart is notable. —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:39, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Failed good article nomination[edit]

Hi all,

I haven't passed this as a good article because the article does not discuss the sound of the song or the instruments involved in the song.

Cedars 08:05, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

... hrmm, and it's not at all a jazz song. I nearly chuckled when I read that. I changed it to "soft rock"

Parodies[edit]

should there be a mention of how much the song was made fun of? Raemie 19:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

speaking of which...we've already put in the most noatble sketch from the Dead Ringers chrismas special...should I add the lyrics from Dead Ringers version as well? --Skully Collins 02:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone tell who the last artist named is in "Bloody Cold"? It sounds something like " ..... David says the only way - to prove I'm cool - is jumpung with my trousers on - into a swimming pool." Lenin & McCarthy 20:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the lyric: "Craig David says the only way to prove I'm cool, is jumping with my trousers on into a swimming pool." This comes from Monkey King's Amazing Facts ( www.monkeykingsfacts.co.uk ) which is one of the links on the James Blunt article. And Skully Collins, no need to put the lyrics in, but you might want to add this link if you feel they are worthy. Lyrics to several other parodies are also available there. Risker 03:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Over at the main James Blunt article, there has been some discussion of keeping the list of parodies of this song in one place - specifically in this article. Does anyone have an objection to that? Risker 04:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube[edit]

The article states that numerous amateur recreations of the video have appeared on YouTube, but you could find recreations for almost any popular song. TVRJomar 02:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you´re right, why don´t you list this link??? Dagadt (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

False start?[edit]

Is there any known reason why Blunt sings the first line during the intro before the rest of the first verse?--Ianthegecko 00:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Jump in to water: the real thing?[edit]

Does anyone know if the jump in to the water by James Blunt was the real mccoy, or was it a stunt man, some sort of digital trickery or something else?

It was the real thing, as can be seen in the "Making of" video. Risker 22:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I found the "Making of" video on youtube - impressive jumping 40 feet like that.

Sesame Street song modification[edit]

Hundreds of artists have performed modified versions of their songs on Sesame Street. A "see also" with a link to one of those songs is not germane to this article. If someone wants to start a list of songs that have been modified and sung on Sesame Street, they should feel free. There have been over 4000 shows in the past 38 years - it should be a nice long list. Risker 05:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know that numerous musical artists have appeared on Sesame Street, but as I recall, it is unusual for them to sing significantly altered versions of their own hit songs. It is that last part that I feel "Your Beautiful"/"My Triangle" has in common with "Shiny Happy People"/"Furry Happy Monsters". I looked around a bit, including this page, and except for the Goo Goo Dolls "Pride"/"Slide" had not found other examples. —MJBurrage • TALK • 10:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Succession boxes[edit]

I've gotten rid of the proliferation of succession boxes. This song was #1 in about 30 countries. It's ridiculous to have succession boxes for only some of them and not all of them, and equally ridiculous for more than half the page to be taken up by essentially meaningless succession boxes. If you absolutely must demonstrate succession, make a piped link from the name of the chart to the list of #1 hits for that chart for that year; it's probably in some article around here somewhere. If not, then simply link to the chart. Risker (talk) 02:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the thing he sits on and jumps off in the video is a flattop, aircraft carrier! It's so flat, it can't actually believe that it's a regular Cliff!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.210.150.147 (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

external link suggestion[edit]

Wikichap33 (talk) 23:03, 21 October 2008 (UTC) This page has very good information about this song: video, lyrics and meaning of the song. How about adding it to the External Links section? http://www.multimedia-english.com/htm/music/2008/youre-beautiful.htm[reply]

  • No it is unnecessary information. Firstly the copyrights of the lyrics are held by record companies. Secondly, "meanings" of songs are fan interpretations and not classified as factual information. Wikipedia is a factual encyclopeida, and therefore it is not suitable. Reqluce (talk) 07:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weddings?[edit]

Should mention be made of the fact that while the song is clearly about him not getting together with the girl ("it's time to face the truth/I will never be with you") it's become a popular song for weddings? Quick googling turned up this page: http://www.uk-disco.co.uk/articles-public/29_08_2006Top-10-First-Dance-Wedding-Songs.asp and I'm sure I've seen similar in the Sunday Times' Style section; the problem is, I think they may have called it "Beautiful" rather than "You're Beautiful", and beautiful alone is impossible to search on (since it pops up in practically every issue). It makes sense, I suppose - after all, people still choose Every Breath You Take...

The Incredible Hulk Theme & You're Beautiful[edit]

It appears that my edit on this page have been reverted a couple of times by one user Portia327. I would like to bring to his/her attention that my edit is NOT vandalism as the accompanying tune of James Blunt's You're Beautiful did sound a little like " The Lonely Man" which was the theme from the TV series, The Incredible Hulk. I am not sure exactly whether the tune was inspired by "The Lonely Man" as I could be wrong. However, Portia327 or other users could check the facts first before reverting my edit and if I am correct, then just let it stick. 60.50.226.3 (talk) 03:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When a User adds new information to a Wiki page, (as you did in this instance) the burden is on them to provide a citation for that information, not others to prove them wrong. This usually includes a link that is added which can be clicked on and read to verify the added information. Unsourced information is treated as vandalism. We welcome your participation in Wiki and appreciate your understanding of these guidelines to keep Wiki as accurate as possible. Please consider creating a User and participating more fully in Wiki editing. Portia327 (talk) 04:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Portia: 1) Marking edits as vandalism which aren't is not a good thing to do at all. In fact it's disruptive and habitually doing this could lead to you being blocked to prevent further disruption to Wikipedia. Consider yourself warned. 2) Whilst you're correct about the need for WP:RS, you should have attempted to engage this user here or on their own talk page rather than incorrectly mark edits as vandalism. What you've done is considered edit warring. You broke the WP:3RR rule, which is grounds for blocking. However I'm leaving this warning instead, though note that any further engagement in an edit war (whether in contravention of 3RR or not) will likely lead to you being blocked for continued disruption after receiving warning.
  • IP user: Please see WP:RS and sort out the issues before re-adding the text to the article. Nja247 07:13, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

flying vs fucking[edit]

I'm surprised there's no mention of the "flying high" censorship. Does it fit anywhere in the article? --Fez2005 (talk) 08:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sesame Street redux[edit]

I note requests for refs of Blunt's appearance on Sesame Street. There is this one, which links to a Youtube video uploaded by the Sesame Street people (i.e., it's legit, not copyvio); the mention in Time here. It's also mentioned in The Guardian, although without a date; and a snippet on Popdirt. I'm not in a position to insert into the article using the referencing templates at present. Risker (talk) 04:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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