Talk:Widelands

Recreated page

This page was once deleted, and a minimal copy of the contense added to Settlers II. At that location it was deleted two times, as other editors logically haven't seen any reason, why a subarticle about Widelands should be on that page. As the reasons noted on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Widelands are already really outdated I recreated the page with the text from an older revision of Settlers II#Widelands, some information from German Wikipedia article and information from http://xoops.widelands.org. All texts are under GFDL. Note: A bot found a similiar text on www.widelands.com but it seesm as if that page copied the text from either the original Widelands-article or the old Widelands-section of Settlers II

Some reasons for recreation:

• Already some software magazins wrote about Widelands like German LinuxUser: link
• Widelands is included in all bigger linux distributions like Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Mandriva, Debian and Fedora
• 72,200 pages from google search "Widelands"

-- Nasenbaer peter (talk) 10:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Make that 566 google hits, again seems to be forums, directory entries and download sites. However, it would be useful to get a rough translation of the linux-user page to see if it satisfies the source requirements suggested by WP:N. Marasmusine (talk) 17:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay I see. My fault - I did not click until last page of googles search, simply took the number from "about 72,200 for Widelands". For the translation of the LinuxUser article, for some small insight the babelfish-translation might be enough. And to simply sum up the article - they wrote some kind of a "beginners guide to the gameplay". In the magazin the article was 3 A4 pages long and they included a version of widelands on the included dvd. Another magazin that included a version of widelands, but only wrote a short summary on the game (about 200 words) was German magazin c't, but I did not found an online article for this, so no proof here. Generally you may say, that widelands is most established in Germany, which might be based on the fact that Settlers 2 was a big success in Germany. Nasenbaer peter (talk) 18:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

just an addition: I just found a second article from c't magazin which can be found online on heise.de, the website of the publishing house of c't. from the heading it seems as if this article was published in April 2008 in c't - Article from c't 4/08, page 152, about Widelands Build 11 - babelfish translation Nasenbaer peter (talk) 18:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I think the linux-user and the c't articles pretty much solve the notability issues I had during the last AfD, good work tracking them down. At some point I may stick babelfish in my ear and see if they can be implemented into this entry. Marasmusine (talk) 09:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Note about copyright and history of this page

As the content of this article was two times tagged as copyright violation, here is my statement on this topic: First of all, this article is _not_ a copy of widelands.com. The orginal article about widelands was written more than two years ago from information still available at the official Widelands homepage and especially from the official "about" article on their website. This original article than was deleted due to a notability issue (take a look here) and a minimal version was merged to The Settlers II article at 26 May 2007 (link to revision).

That minimal version was the base for the recreated Widelands article. All data added afterwards was a translation from German Wikipedia article de:Widelands and from some data from official "about Widelands" article at widelands.org And as Toon noted on my talk page, widelands.com was registered on 17 September 2007 - already some time after the original text was written on the first Widelands article. -- Nasenbaer peter (talk) 16:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

The main problem was that it got picked up by a couple of bots - I found it at WP:SCV, and there is also WP:CV - which I've taken care of - there shouldn't be any more problems! – Toon^(talk) 16:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

How to improve the page

Still this article is rated as "stub" and so I would like to improve it, but I wonder what could be added that is interesting for the reader? I saw at the The Settlers II article, that someone added tables listing the workers and buildings, but I think that these parts already look too much like a game manual. So my question is: Is such content wanted? Another idea I had was to add a description about the content of the game. So would it be okay, to add a description for all three folks ("tribes")? Perhaps I could also write a short description of the story of the campaigns. But does that belong in a wikipedia article? -- Nasenbaer peter (talk) 19:32, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Fictional elements should be kept to a minimum. The article needs real-world context. I would recommend a "critical reception" section, using those magazine articles for reference. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines for more details! Marasmusine (talk) 08:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! The link was really helpful, but I think I better leave my hands from critical receptions, as I already contributed some smaller pieces of source code to the Widelands project and as I am a big fan of the project, I properly wouldn't be able to write from a 100% neutral point of view. (but Wikipedia is big enough, I am sure I can help out somewhere else :) ) -- Nasenbaer peter (talk) 10:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Please add this section

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lua-scripted_video_games — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.94.51.2 (talk) 12:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

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