Talk:White Pine Village

White Pine Village was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
January 1, 2018	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:White Pine Village/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 12:11, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:11, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The lead seems a bit short for the length of the article; could it be expanded a bit?
"Nationally recognized" is vague, and it's sourced to the local newspaper, which probably shouldn't be treated as a reliable source for evaluations of the importance of the village. I think you could just cut this.
It's self-guided, so I don't think we should call the staff in period costumes "guides".
I tried to follow the citation to Keith Naughton's article(s) in the Ludington Daily News, and I found the article from 7/31/82. His article says it's the first in a series; are there others in the series linked? I ask because the first citation I tried to check, for "In 1965, Mrs. Rose Hawley, a Michigan historian, came up with the idea for a pioneer-type, history, outdoor museum", doesn't seem to be supported by that article, unless I'm missing something. Also, that citation has no date.
Is it Ludington Daily News or Daily News? You use both.
There are some deadlinks; see here. One of them (to the historical society) is used nearly twenty times, so I'm going to hold off on continuing the review till that's fixed.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:12, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mike Christie: Thanks Mike Christie. I will work into the dead-links immediately and then the other points. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:20, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded lead.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:53, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Cut out nationally recognized and is the largest historical village.
Replaced period costumes "guides" with "some period-costumed employees showing a particular building."
Corrected newspaper= Daily News to => newspaper= Ludington Daily News (55 instances)
The citation to Keith Naughton's article(s) in the Ludington Daily News of "In 1965, Mrs. Rose Hawley, a Michigan historian, came up with the idea for a pioneer-type, history, outdoor museum" - I will have to look into at the Ludington Library. They open again January 2, 2018 = weather permitting (snow) I will follow up on that. Can I have a few days on this issue?
The article that started "In 1965, Mrs. Rose Hawley...." no longer appears to be available online, so I reworded the article to current articles that are online.
@Mike Christie: Deadlinks solved and have worked on the other issues. I am ready with the article for further reviewing. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:02, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll take another look. I did find this, which you don't cite; does the "Great Lakes Pavilion" no longer exist? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:38, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I live in Ludington, Michigan, and am very familiar with Michigan but never heard of that.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:56, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not a big deal, but I don't think you really need the "main" links for the historical society and Burr Caswell. The former is already linked in the text, and Caswell can be linked too. The "main" hatnote is useful for summary style, but that's not really what's going on here.
Most of the paragraph about the Marchido School is cited to a source that doesn't seem to mention it. I suspect you've mixed up this citation with the historical society website citation; can you check?

I'll stop there so you can check the citations. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:58, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. I'll check them out.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:20, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Christie: O.K. I believe I have taken care of the Marchido School issues. You can continue with the review.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:40, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That looks good. I've read through again and am going to pass this; I think the prose could be copyedited a little but it meets GA standards. One suggestion: "See video demonstration in illustrations" took me a second till I realized they were at the bottom of the article. How about a link from that phrase to that section of the article? But I won't hold up GA for that. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:10, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment[edit]

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]