Talk:VxWorks

Marketing?

This appears to be almost marketing spiel, a feature and clients list, than a discussion of what it actually is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Achromatic (talk • contribs) .

Concur. -Mardus 16:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia, so you know what to do: be bold and improve the article!

Atlant 16:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

bb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.189.181.135 (talk) 08:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I Appreciate the fact that anyone at all took the time to write about something! I enjoyed the article. Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

C++

enhanced C++ features for exception handling and template support

Revision Improvements

I have started re-editing the article to reflect VxW 7 to address the feedback from The Banner.Robpater (talk) 14:06, 20 June 2014 (UTC) How can an embedded operating system be "enhanced for C++" ?? This sounds like marketing to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.253.32.116 (talk) 02:22, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Optimizing for languages or instruction sets is not new. There is a reason why my Blackberry will never run Flash. Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Cost?

Does anyone know how much this costs per seat? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.238.211.199 (talk • contribs) .

It's bloody expensive, and a total bitch to use (pardon the language, but I'm trying to get the bastard to work at this very moment and it's frustrating). /Alkanen

$18K -$20K with ONE year of support & then they will try to rope you into paying $20K/year for continued support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.209.144.151 (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Would I be correct in guessing that you were not a Unix programmer before you tried to use VxWorks? 'Cause if you speak Unix and understand realtime concepts, the transition to VxWorks is usually thought to be very easy. I certainly found it to be so.

Atlant 12:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I am a Unix programmer. It's not the programming in VxWorks that's hard, it's getting the thing to work with hardware that's not in the default installation package (viz. Leon2) that's horrid. It might not be VxWorks that's the problem, but rather the BSP though.

I'm sure software development will be quite simple once we get advanced features like processes to even compile...

Oh, by the way. Do you happen to know a good source of documentation? The one that comes with Workbench doesn't seem to go into specifics, only general issues. We're trying to find information on how to create our own device drivers and loading them into the kernel, and most of the information we find is in the nature of "Remember not to write too large device drivers, since the kernel needs to be fast". I mean duh, we know that, but we don't know the specific function calls to make in order to create the drivers in the first place. /Alkanen

https://portal.windriver.com/windsurf/techpubs/os/vxworks/v6.4/vxworks_device_driver_developers_guide_6.4.pdf

(Wind River UID and password necessary) Fumblebruschi 17:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Image

I took the liberty of moving the Orbiter image to the Products using VxWorks -section; it felt a little like an advertisement when right in the beginning of the article. If anyone disagrees, do feel free to revert. 82.181.61.48 00:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

(Speaking just for me), I have no problem with that. A better image to lead the article might be a fair-use screen shot of the VxWorks console (OS boot-up) splash screen; I'm pretty sure Wind River wouldn't/couldn't object to such use.

Atlant 12:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Which embedded OS has the most users

I'm thinking it's vxWorks, but can't find a source 69.228.240.57 22:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Competitive operating systems

This subtitle doesn't sound right to me. Competing, perhaps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.139.195.162 (talk) 14:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Use in HP MSA2000 RAID controllers

I added a couple of days ago that the MSA2000 line of RAID controllers from HP (developed by Dot Hill Systems), why was that deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.203.233.77 (talk) 13:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Use in Linksys and Cisco routers

Someone should add the wrt54g series of routers to the list. 199.230.203.254 (talk) 21:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect History

Actually, Wind River didn't develop VxWorks; they (originally) partnered with a company in San Jose--whose name I simply can't remember right now--who was then developing real-time OSes. Said company was purchased/acquired by NBI, which then sold off the VxWorks components to Wind River.

I would make the modification, but I don't want to rely on my memory. I know the software wasn't developed by Wind River, however; I wrote the stinkin' documentation for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.129.224.36 (talk) 22:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC) My apologies for not signing the above.Dougom (talk) 01:36, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Memory kicked in: VxWorks was developed by a company called Integrated Solutions, Inc. (ISI) in the late 80s and early 90s. ISI was purchased/acquired by NBI of Texas.Dougom (talk) 02:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to break it to you but your memory is faulty. PSOS was ISI's product. They acquired Software Component Groups and were eventually purchased by WRS. The rest is history. Buy your top competitor and shut them down. --JoelSherrill (talk) 21:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not trying to argue, honest, but if that's the case, why was I writing the "VxWorks Programming Guide" when I was at ISI in the middle part of 1989? This isn't memory; I have a friggin' copy sitting right here in my office, and I know that I worked there from February to November of 1989--I was in my car leaving work at ISI the day the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake hit, so it's not like it's easy to forget. Was VxWorks perhaps a joint program between ISI and Wind River prior to the acquisition? Is it possible the pSOS entry contains errors? I don't know where the problem is in the history, but the following are facts: I have a VxWorks document that I wrote, while I was at ISI, in the middle part of 1989. Other than that, I'm open to suggestions.Dougom (talk) 19:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

"native" systems such as Unix ??????

Unlike "native" systems such as Unix, VxWorks development is done on a "host" machine running Unix or Windows, cross-compiling target software to run on various "target" CPU architectures.

What nonsense is this? *nix systems can be developed on a host machine and have programs cross compiled to a target machine. This sentence makes it seem like VxWorks is the exclusive embedded OS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.84.0.240 (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

²nd this. Crosscompiling can be done in unix/linux/whatever aswell. VxWorks certainly isn't the only OS which is (or can be) cross compiled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.134.98.9 (talk) 14:13, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

When reading the article, despite "native" since having been changed to "self-hosting", that part also made no sense to me (having used unix in cross-compiled environments myself), so I'll edit it. 66.11.179.30 (talk) 15:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

History ?

The History section talks about "Fiddler and Wilner" without telling who those people are. The only other mention of Fiddler is in a footnote, and Wilner isn't mentioned elsewhere at all. Mattack (talk) 22:10, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

OS Overview

Under Tornado heading, link to VxWorks 5 is broken. The Wind River website no longer keeps information live on VxWorks 5.x.

List Removal

The list "Notable products using VxWorks" is tagged as being not encyclopedic or notable or useful. I disagree on at least two points. As a first-time reader, I found the list to be very informative on the variety and scale of uses for this OS, and particularly insightful for the seriousness (implied reliability requirements) of some applications (military, aircraft, spacecraft). The examples given are the epitome of notable. Who would argue that the Boeing 787 or BMW iDrive system are not notable? These seem to all be cutting-edge state of the art products. As to whether the list is encyclopedic, it seems that sections with examples are common in Wikipedia. The list style seems to conform to Related topics (navigational lists). It has been 10 months since the banner was added with no further action. I propose that the List warning banner be removed. Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Vote for dedicated article "List of notable products using VxWorks" like List of Intel Celeron microprocessors; Alecv (talk) 06:57, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

VxWorks 7

The current article is out-of-date and should be updated to include all the changes just released in March. I have started to pull together some material from Wind River's webpage and will start updating to reflect new features. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robpater (talk • contribs) 20:16, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I started to make some changes to incorporate v7 (infox and history) and also changed some headings to better reflect the actual content (Port to Board Support; Development to Development Environment; Design to Features). I'm starting to accumulate a list of features for 7.Robpater (talk) 01:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I added a certifications section from information found on Wind River's VxWorks 7 page. Robpater (talk) 01:39, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I have updated the feature list to include VxWorks 7 and some missing features available in release 6.Robpater (talk) 21:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I have a mnessage about numerous disambiguous links but cannot find them???Robpater (talk) 13:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Notable Uses

I noticed broken links and an outdated list that is categorized differently than how Wind River categorizes its customer list for VxWorks. I have updated the list based on Wind River's customer page as noted in the reference.Robpater (talk) 13:20, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Hitachi Data Systems also use this OS on their storage arrays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.100.149.98 (talk) 02:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Reversion Discussion

I am new to Wiki and have put a lot of work into researching content updates to reflect VxWorks 7. I have got all my information from the Wind River VxWorks page and some articles, and have cited those sources. I thought I was citing at the same level as was done in the old article. "The Banner" can you give me some specific feedback? Then I will try to address them in the article. Thanks Rob Robpater (talk) 05:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

The problem is that your edits have a promotional tone. A second major problem is the lack of independent sources. The website of Wind River, the owner and builder, is definitely not an independent source. You should try to find third party sources. And please keep in mind that Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral, also in tone and style. The Banner talk 07:00, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I'm learning! At first I thought the article re-verted based on some edit I had done. Ill do some re-writing make it more neutral in tone, and look for more 3rd party sources for VxWorks 7. For the section like the feature list perhaps I can site an article about its rel7 improvements but also say according to the WR document x,the rel7 list is. I'll start to work on this this weekend and hope to complete it by mid next week. Since I am new to Wiki, do you mind explaining the process / next steps? Thanks Rob 76.66.154.112 (talk) 12:47, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

I have edited the preamble and history sections, including new references.Robpater (talk) 03:33, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

When creating wikilinks, its is advisable to check those links afterwards. That gives you the opportunity to correct links that point to disambiguation pages or wrong targets. The Banner talk 11:44, 23 June 2014 (UTC)