Talk:Vivienne Haigh-Wood Eliot

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Dating Illustration Accompanying Section "Marriage"[edit]

Has the date attribution of December 1931 been properly verified? It would be rather unlikely for this group to be sitting outside at all, the way they are, at that specific time of year, and then so comparatively lightly dressed. Moreover, the trees in the upper right corner appear to be in full foliage, again highly unlikely for December specifically. Rhuijing (talk) 17:40, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The photo comes from the National Portrait Gallery which gives the date. http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/largerimage.php?search=ss&firstRun=true&role=sit&sText=Vivienne+Eliot&page=1&LinkID=mp72287&rNo=9 WikiParker (talk) 22:47, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Revisited the National Portrait Gallery page and I no longer see the date. WikiParker (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganization needed[edit]

I think the lead section of this article is too long and much of the material should be incorporated into the body of the article itself (especially about the end of her life and her death). The lead almost summarizes her life and the article is just detail on how she and Eliot met (there is more about him here than her). I'm not sure how attached editors are to this page but I'll come back and do some restructuring later if someone else doesn't address this. Newjerseyliz (talk) 16:20, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Married life skimmed-over[edit]

Rather a gap there - straight from their marriage in 1915 to their separation in 1933. Valetude (talk) 18:37, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The couple were married after three months, on 26 June 1915

Three months after what? There is no mention of an engagement. Valetude (talk) 13:28, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Valetude, there's a lot skimmed over, but you're welcome to add it. I've been hoping for some time that someone would develop the article. Sarah ^(talk) 21:09, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article Title[edit]

I believe the article title should not include her husbands last name. She is known on her known merits, and not defined by her husband, who she had a complicated marriage with. HesioneHushabye (talk) 16:31, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hesion, two points: so far as I know, the marriage is the only thing she is known for, along with her contribution to his poetry through the marriage. She did some writing of her own, but she isn't notable for that. Also, the sources do usually call her Eliot, though there are several ways the name is written, including Vivien Eliot, Vivienne Eliot, and Vivienne Haigh-Wood Eliot. Sarah ^(talk) 16:55, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When they met[edit]

Haigh-Wood met Tom Eliot in or around March 1914 at a dance in London, where he took tea with her and a friend.

According to most sources, it was March 1915, and they married three months later. Valetude (talk) 23:44, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of any comments, I have corrected this. Valetude (talk) 23:33, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quote from Louis Menand[edit]

He was uneasy with female sexuality... which manifested itself both in his poetry and in his attitude toward Haigh-Wood's body.

The second claim in particular needs elucidating. Valetude (talk) 23:37, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]