Talk:Ultraviolence (band)

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need?[edit]

Does there really need to be a page to define a word which is defined on the only page it is on?

I suggest moving it to the band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.250.72.137 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 1 October 2005

The ultraviolence concept is important, for months I was waiting for someone to create a page on it. Every time I typed it in all i got was that stupid band, this needs to stay, people will add to it, and I will look after it. THIS IS IMPORTANT, lots of people are familiar with the concept, and it needs to be elaborated on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.89.32.47 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 5 October 2005

Ultraviolence has been used by film scholars to define sequences in movies filmed in slow motion. The ending sequence in Bonnie and Clyde is seen as the first Ultraviolence sequence. I suggest incorporating this into the article.

see screening violence - ed. Stephen Prince (Athlone 2000) - joel ö — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.182.105.79 (talk • contribs) 15:39, 15 January 2006

i wouldn't exactly call battle royale ultraviolence. I mean, it's violent, but it's not that violent. it's more of the people committing the violence that makes the movie disturbing. plus it says that it is random violence without justification. the students committing the violence are fighting to survive, so it is not random and it is certainly justified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supersquash401 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 18 March 2006

I think I have heard battle royale described as ultraviolent, it may not be as explicit as some films, but it is children killing children, and the character Kiriyama only signed up for fun, so his killings were clearly unjustified. Also, several other films are listed which don't contain unjustified murder, Sin city and Kill Bill are easily more violent than BR but again, the killing is clearly justified. As for BR not being that violent, I think that a decapitated head being stuffed with a grenade and used as a weapon may tip the scales from violent to ultraviolent. Also it has been stated by Quienten Tarantino that BR was in part inspiration for his Kill Bill Films, thus the inclusion of Chiaki Kuriyama as Gogo yubari as an homage. I'm relisting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.89.32.47 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 9 December 2006

definition[edit]

Where is this word actually defined? I've heard it used, but never seen it strictly defined. If we're making our own definition, that's original research. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 04:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wrong definition in terms of "a clockwerk orange"[edit]

I'm not 100% sure, but as far as I recall, in "A clockwork orange" the term "doing the ultra-violent" means "rape" and nothing else. It's possible that starting from there the term got a broader meaning on its own, but i think in the novel it is used only with the meaning "rape". But I may be wrong... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.176.86.169 (talk) 16:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About this article[edit]

Like other jargon words, the term Ultraviolence has not been explicitly defined in any publication or academic paper as of yet. But that doesn't mean it needs one to have an article (see here, esp. where it says: "Terms which may go without a definition in an academic paper or a textbook may require one in Wikipedia.") Also, the terms ultra-violence and ultra-violent are definitely used multiple times throughout A Clockwork Orange, so citing exactly where the term is used in the novel is unnecessary and cumbersome.

Apart from the references I've given in the article, it's pretty obvious that the word ultraviolence has widely popular uses in modern times, which I think deserve an adequate explanation in a knowledge source such as Wikipedia (Or would you like it that when you ask Wikipedia "what is ultraviolence?" it answered "It's a metal band!"? Because that's what it did before I created this article.)

So please take all this into consideration before flagging the article for deletion and screaming bloody original research. Kreachure (talk) 23:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Regardless, it's obvious the article still needs to improve a lot. Please contribute in it as much as possible. Visiting the external links might be a good start. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kreachure (talk • contribs) 23:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article on the band was deleted per WP:BAND. This article is purely original research (for the parts that actually pertain to the word, anyway) and should be deleted. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 08:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fresh start[edit]

This article has had a messy history and since the previous redirect to the Clockwork Orange page was particularly unhelpful/illogical I have re-initiated the page for the Ultraviolence band (which is the most credible claim to the exact phrasing) to meet Notability Criteria and fixed some disambiguation / redirect links. Please note that further interest in an article about the language and/or literature can be attempted elsewhere and referenced at Ultraviolence (disambiguation). Cheers. Tubusy (talk) 19:45, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]