Talk:Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo Railway

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Service to Buffalo Central Terminal[edit]

According to the Forgotten Buffalo Retro Rewind, Buffalo Central Terminal 1964 & 1970 video slideshow of photos taken in 1964 and 1970 by Robert Long and posted to youtube last summer, the TH&B served Buffalo Central Terminal when the terminal was operating as a New York Central Railroad station. The TH&B name appears on departures signs still posted within the terminal.[1] According to "records" uncovered at Buffalo Central Terminal (BCT) in 1990 both the TH&B and the Lehigh Valley Railroad operated out of BCT.[2] According to Garnet R. Cousins writing in the October 1985 issue of Trains the TH&B was already using the Exchange Street Station in Buffalo, New York when the grand opening of the BCT was held on 22 June 1929.[3] Cousins went on to mention that a newly rebuilt Exchange Street Station in downtown Buffalo "was opened August 2, 1952, when Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo train 372 arrived from Toronto at 12:59 p.m., with 10 cars in charge of an almost-new Canadian Pacific 4-6-2."[3] Cousins also wrote that TH&B service to BCT was made and historically "An era passed on March 23, 1954, with the departure of the last regularly scheduled steam passenger train at the Terminal, Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo train 377 behind 4-6-4 No.501."[3] While it may be accurate to state that as an independent company the Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo might not have managed to reach either Buffalo, New York or Toronto, Ontario; it is probably more helpful to point out that, at least as a New York Central subsidiary (which it was from 1895 onward), the TH&B did provide service to both the cities of Buffalo and Toronto. 69.115.42.244 (talk) 16:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK this statement is buried well into the first section: "It never built into Toronto or Buffalo, but used its parent companies' trackage to reach the two cities." Perhaps the lead should be reworded. 69.115.42.244 (talk) 16:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Lead reads: "It never reached the other two cities in its name" which is not true and contradicted within the article. It reached both Toronto and Buffalo, at least when it was a subsidiary of CPR and NYC. Perhaps: "It never built lines into the other two cities in its own name while an independent company but later, as a subsidiary of other companies, it did provide service to both other cities for several decades in the 20th century." instead. 69.115.42.244 (talk) 17:04, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Long, Robert (23 July 2011). Biniasz, Marty (ed.). Forgotten Buffalo Retro Rewind, Buffalo Central Terminal 1964 & 1970. Retrieved 2012-03-11.
  2. ^ Collison, Kevin (7 November 1990). "RAIL FANS MINE RICH LODE OF HISTORY PAPERS IN OLD TERMINAL DETAIL OPERATIONS OF LONG-GONE LINES 11/7/1990". Retrieved 2012-03-11.
  3. ^ a b c Cousins, Garnet R. (October 1985). "Beacon at mile 435.9–2 Dedication to Dethronement". Trains. Retrieved 2012-03-11.

TH&B hamilton station building international style?[edit]

No, it is not built in the international style. The entire station building inside and out is a wonderful example of art deco design. I have photos i took myself of the interior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alp46a (talk • contribs) 09:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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