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Thomas Pickering?[edit]

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This discussion was about an article on a Thomas Pickering that turned out to be based on a misprint of Timothy Pickering's name.

If anyone cares: I'm not an expert in American history so I don't. But Google search shows at least dozens of hits although some of them refer to the biography directories. Clearly not a ProD or speedy deletion case. I'd let the importance tag stay waiting for the experts. --Futurano 20:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The source from Ohio University seems to be the only information available online about this person. A general search for "Thomas Pickering" is not particularly useful as almost all results are about Thomas R. Pickering. A directed search for "Thomas Pickering" + "Newburgh Plan" produces only the Ohio U source and various Wikipedia mirrors. One gets the same result when searching for "Thomas Pickering" + "Northwest Ordinance". Searches of Google Books, News, and Scholar yield no results. Of course, this is not too surprising given that the subject is an 18th century personality. Although this is not a speedy deletion candidate, I feel it may appropriate for {{prod}} or AfD if no sources are forthcoming. I will place a request for attention (print sources) at the talk pages of WikiProject History, WikiProject Ohio, and WikiProject United States. -- Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The creator of this article was fooled by a misprint. The mysterious "Thomas Pickering" is actually the well-known Timothy Pickering. Curiously, a Google search reveals that it is not unusual for people to mistakenly type "Thomas Pickering" when they mean "Timothy Pickering"; sometimes they even use both names on the same page, such as here and here. Perhaps they vaguely confuse his name with another Revolutionary figure, Thomas Pinckney. This article should simply be deleted or redirected to Timothy Pickering. —Kevin Myers 14:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, one way to verify this starting from the article itself to click on Charles Pickering (naturalist), and then click on the source for that article, and you'll find that the correct name for Charles Pickering's grandfather is Timothy. —Kevin Myers 14:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. I have proposed the article for deletion. Cheers, Black Falcon ^(Talk) 19:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Order in infoboxes[edit]

Does wiki have a codified policy for the order of offices held by an individual in an infobox? I've noticed some inconsistency in this area -- some pages listed the most recent office held at the top of the infobox, other pages the oldest post. Is there a standard to follow? twinsrulemlb (talk) 0:08, 28 Oct 2008 (UTC)

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Trial by Wiki Editors?[edit]

The language of the article alleges that the subject violated the Logan Act. Now, visit the Logan Act page & behold no one has ever been convicted of violating that statute; only two persons have ever been charged with it and Tim Pickering was none of them. SO his innocence or guilt of the charge has never been officially decided (yet evidently the man did act in a manner that would seem to warrant a conviction). Is it "kosher" for the internet encyclopedist to pronounce final judgment in the matter? Samuel Enderby (talk) 02:41, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Court decisions are primary sources, and typically unreliable. What we typically use are secondary sources, and the opinions of historians. Dimadick (talk) 15:40, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]