Talk:Thomas R. Marshall/GA2

GA Review

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I am reviewing this article. I reviewed Don Tallon for GA some time back so I will try to remeber what to do. --Roisterer (talk) 09:13, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your review. I will work to quickly resolve any issues that may arise. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 01:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Just to say I'm still working my way through the article but made some minor fixes to grammar and spelling as it was easier for me to do that rather than spell them out here. Please note that I'm a Commonwealth English speaker so I may have made some changes that don't fit in an American English article. Feel free to change them back if this is so. --Roisterer (talk) 12:38, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I have to go away for work for the next few days so I won't get any further on the article until I return. In the meanwhile, what was the name of the company that published his memoirs? Under "Further Reading", you've got them as "Boobs Merrill". --Roisterer (talk) 11:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

It is Bobbs-Merrill Company, I will add that to the test of the body. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 12:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (y): See notes below on References.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias WP:BLP:

5. It is stable.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) b (appropriate use with suitable captions)

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Notes

I have an easier job on this review due to the work by yourself and the Reviewer User:Wehwalt during the first review where most of the problems were ironed out.

The issues I have with the article are all very minor:

• In the lead, the line about Marshall's introduction of the filibuster has that a variation of the rule is still in effect today but in the body of the article it doesn't mention anything about a variation.
• Was the College newspaper he wrote for Geyser or The Geyser?
  • The source calls it the Geyser, but only italicized Geyser.
• Not being American, I'm unsure whether the varying use of "Democrat" or "Democratic" party is usual in US politics or whether you need to consistently refer to one.
  • Democratic is used to as an adjective, so Democratic Party, Democratic candidates, Democratic politics; Democrat refers only to a party member.
• In the Vice Presidency section, it jumps straight into "Rift with Wilson", when the first paragraph doesn't mention such a thing.
• In Electoral history, he is known as "Thomas Marshall" in his first election and "Thomas R. Marshall" for the others. Is this how his name was listed on the ballot?
  • That was just an oversight, it is fixed now. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 15:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

References Could you please add a reference to the following:

• Early Life section:
  • "The family moved to Osawatomie, Kansas... to Missouri in 1860";
  • In the same paragraph, there needs to be at least one reference in the part referring to Duff Green;
  • "The dispute prompted the entire family to move again to Fort Wayne and convert to the Presbyterian Church.";
  • A least one reference is required in the part relating to the libel suit against him (rather than those at the end of the paragraph, which look like they related to Harrison's lecture on ethics.;
  • Reference for his graduation results.;
  • Reference for his marriage to Lois and her role fighting his alcoholism.

• Governorship section
  • Sentences starting with "This drew support from..." and ending with communities where a majority supported it.";
  • initial objective to bring as many Democrats to fill patronage positions and Marshall's reluctance to be involved.

• Vice Presidency
  • "Initially, Marshall turned down... given plenty to do.";
  • "During his time presiding in the Senate...Mexican border crisis in 1916.";
  • The paragraph regarding Muenter's attempt on Marshall and Morgan (rather than just the sentence where he declines the offer of security.);
  • speaking across the country about Liberty bonds and earning extra money as public speaker)
  • Marshall becoming the 1st VP to conduct cabinet meetings;
  • They called him Izzy

• Later Life
  • Unable to gain support for Presidency bid from outside Indiana and his endorsement of Cox & Roosevelt;
  • Opened law practice in Indianapolis.

As mentioned, these are relatively minor and once they are actioned, I would have no problems approving the nomination. If you have any questions regarding any of this, I'll be pleased to explain further. --Roisterer (talk) 15:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your thorough review. I should be able to get these items fixed tommorrow. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 00:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I believe I have addressed all of your concerns. I have made a few notes. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 15:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Pass GA Nomination

Congratulations Charles. With the extra work you did I could find nothing with the article to exclude it from becoming a Good Article. --Roisterer (talk) 11:54, 8 October 2009 (UTC)