Talk:The World, the Flesh and the Devil (1959 film)

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The Quiet Earth[edit]

This sounds and awful lot like Quiet Earth. -- Nils Jeppe 11:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seen one end of the world, you've seen 'em all. Clarityfiend 23:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This was made in 1959. The Quiet Earth was made in 1985. Shouldn't the point of reference be the other way around? 59.92.178.19 (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It also reminds me of the novel “Earth Abides” (publ. 10 years before), especially the hammer thing at the very beggining. (And yes, there’s a huge little nugget of racism in the latter, so this is a bit of irony.) Tuvalkin (talk) 21:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate ending?[edit]

It's a funny thing, I recall that this film ended with sirens and cars driving back into the city after a war drill. 142.161.173.101 (talk) 11:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)ologist[reply]

Wasn't This Based on Another Short Story?[edit]

Wasn't this based on a another short story by-of all people-trail-blazing sociologist and Anti-Segregationist William Edwin Burghardt (W.E.B.)DuBoise? I read the story, part of a compilation of a sci-fi offerings .by an African-American woman, titled "Dark Matter" Duboise's 1921A.D. piece centers around two ppl, seemingly the only survivors on Earth meet shortly after a low-flying comet passes in trajectory over New York City killing everybody, except the black man and white woman, improbably because they were both and seperately trapped deep underground when the event occured. After a few days, they are startled to find other survivors who informed them that only NYC was affected and that they were trying to cross Manhattan from New Jersey. The contributor, instating that the script for the movie called for an alternative ending conicides with DuBoise Short story. Why is it that no mention was made of "The Comet" as it seemed somewhat "revolutionary" to put Mr. Belafonte in such a movie and genre. 69.126.238.184 (talk) 01:44, 2 January 2011 (UTC)Veryverser[reply]

Thanks for the addition. Could you make clear the titles of the stories and authors?

And calling for anyone else who remembers the other ending from the early years. Leonard Maltin's movie guide refers to a "ridiculous conclusion", which would coincide. I find no other mention anywhere. 206.45.23.97 (talk) 13:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sci Fi[edit]

To anyone who hasn't seen the film there is not a shred of Sci Fi in it. All of the technology is of the period. The film does take place after an atomic conflict - which was possibility and a fear of all nations at the time it was made. However post-apocolyptic does not automatically equate with Sci Fi. Since there are secondary sources that allow for the labeling of the film as Sci Fi I am only posting this for any readers that have any questions about this situation. MarnetteD | Talk 17:14, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's set in the future, which is what makes it science fiction. Consider A Canticle for Leibowitz. The first two parts were published in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction as stand-alone stories with no new technology. Or what about The Years of Rice and Salt? Alternate history with no advanced technology (AFAIK - I didn't bother to finish reading it, but our synopsis doesn't indicate any). Also note that Apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic fiction is categorized as a science fiction genre. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Then there's Mary Shelley's other science fiction novel,[1][2] The Last Man, which posits the end of mankind with just a prosaic plague. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:14, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

HI C. The story that is was adapted from is set in the future but the film isn't. It takes place in the late 50's and everything in it is of the time. I think that means it is an "alternative present" story :-) which IMO means it doesn't qualify as Sci Fi. But that is just me and I have no problem with what you have added to the article. Your research skills are as excellent as ever. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 16:06, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi C? Groaners like that are my department. Anyway, thanks for the compliment. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:43, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Afrofuturist Themes[edit]

This article really ought to be expanded, and I think having a section on the movie's themes would be a good place to start. Specifically, I think there should be an exploration of how the movie's themes relate to Afrofuturism. While the movie was made a few decades before Afrofuturism was articulated as a concept, the two share strong connections. I'm probably going to start adding some of these ideas soon and would love to hear any other suggestions for important themes! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajarman95 (talk • contribs) 19:09, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Theme sections need WP:SECONDARY reliable sources. Please do not place your own original research into the article as it is likely to be removed per WP:NOT. MarnetteD|Talk 19:13, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I added some brief comments on Afrofuturism. I am not sure if these are too objective.Menanana (talk) 05:09, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They are WP:OR. The only sourced thing is "free white and 21" and the claim that is an elitist phrase. It isn't. MarnetteD|Talk 05:16, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:NOT#ESSAY. There are plenty of places on the web where you can write about your theories for this film. WikiP is not the place for them. MarnetteD|Talk 05:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Anachronisms in the article[edit]

Ralph Bunche Park was not named such until 1979. Before that it was colloquially known as The Isaiah Wall. The article gives chapter and verse for Isaiah, however, the single word Isaiah was added to the wall in 1975 as part of a re-dedication. This new inscription did not include the verse. --Wlmg (talk) 19:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]