Talk:The Wall – Live in Berlin

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The Memorial Fund for Disaster Relief.[edit]

I've searched the internet high and low for information on this charity, bit to no avail. I know it's mentioned on the DVD and therefore must have existed. Does anyone have any information, as I'd like to start the article on it? -- Funky Monkey  (talk)  02:53, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Strange Information[edit]

In the tracklisting of the concert, the track "In the Flesh?" is credited to "Scorpions". However if you click the "In the Flesh?"-link the song in said to be by Pink Floyd. Just wanted to bring it some attention. Have i misunderstood something? --83.72.7.63 21:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The song is by Pink Floyd. Roger Waters was the band's previous frontman and was a major creative force on the PF album [[[The Wall]], which is the album preformed live at this concert. When Roger did the concert, his membership with the group had been over for a few years., so the band that played the album was never asked to do this concert. Instead, Roger made it a star-studded extravanza, with artists like The Band, Ute Lemper and the aformented Scorpions. MajorB 22:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to comment on "so the band that played the album was never asked to do this concert." In an interview Roger said that he had in fact asked the rest of the gang to come play with him, but they said no... (which is a shame) Clq 15:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC) EDIT: I see from the article that the above appears to be false, but I am quite sure I have read somewhere that he did ask the rest of Pink Floyd. Ill try to track it down. Clq 16:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

5 Million?[edit]

5 Million people in 35 countries watched it on TV? Should be closer to 500 Millions, I guess...? --81.223.145.66 10:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should be cited either way, je guess... 205.188.117.13 10:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are typically two figures for this kind of international broadcast — how many people could possibly watch it, a measure of how widely available the broadcast is, and how many people actually did watch it. The second number is of course usually much, much less than the first number, but press releases and credulous media people often confuse the two. In the case of this particular broadcast, 500 million for the first number and 5 million for the second number both sound possible. 192.102.82.253 20:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The mistakes (in the concert)[edit]

I remember listening to it live (and still have it on tape from the radio broadcast - somewhere.) Anyway, from what I remember, during the power messup on ABitW pt1, they actually rolled the production backwards and redid the song.

Also, on Mother, the guys they had singing the Mother parts didn't know they lyrics and really flubbed it up. From what I had heard is that after the show was over they re-recorded that track, people in the audience who were leaving heard it and turned around. This also is why they are holding the lyrics and Roger was standing there kinda prompting them.

Whether not any of this is true or not, I don't know - that's just what I remember from 15 or so years ago.

Concert vs. DVD[edit]

The page is linked to as being about the DVD (2003) and as being about the concert. In the article itself there is not a clear distinction between these two subjects. Is the tracklist on the DVD the same as the original setlist? Information about who recorded/mixed/produced the DVD and about the artwork (which is not really special) are missing. Should the concert and the DVD be seperate articles, or does this article need a clear DVD-section? --Leoremy 22:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Jerry Hall was criticized for her part as the groupie in the track One of My Turns."[edit]

Where? By who? Why? Citation, or a bit more info? Clq 15:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - suggest this vague and meaningless statement be removed - it is now September 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.97.114.149 (talk) 14:37, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Statement removed. Din Ycae (talk) 10:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Roger Waters's Lip-Synced Performance[edit]

To anyone who has seen this amazing show, it should noted that Roger Waters completely lip synced his lyrics while every other artist sang their heart out. Autopilots 09:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source for this? Though I wouldn't argue that a few songs might have been lip-synced (if this information was sourced), the vocal performance, though good, wasn't "great" enough for me to find it natural to think it is lip-syncing. As for evidence against lip-syncing I have two points in mind. On the television broadcast when the microphones weren't plugged in (or something along the lines) his voice doesn't show up, and during "Stop" when he almost knocks over the microphone the volume of the vocals are lower when the mic is further from his mouth. Clq 18:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a part during the show where Waters briefly knocks the microphone away from his face, and you can hear the sound of his voice noticeably drop in volume then rise again when he gets the microphone back in place. Hard for that to happen if he's lip syncing.DailyRich (talk) 16:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sound quality at the concert[edit]

After the power failure the sound was extremely quiet until the end of the concert (I was there). I spoke a few weeks later to a local Berliner roadie who had been working as an electrician at the site. He claimed never to have run more backstage during a concert. Dcutter 07:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In my memories: After the pre-show two big loudspeaker towers were shut off because of a "construction analysis" and some engineers said that the high volume could damage buildings around. This leads to a very low volume in some parts (where we stand) and you could hear your neighbor singing rather than the musicians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.153.102 (talk) 15:03, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I've had to remove your paragraph as at the moment it's original research. If you can find a reliable source to back up your memories by all means re-add it. Fred the Oyster (talk) 17:06, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For 30 years (to the day) I have been hearing and reading various accounts on the bad sound quality, but never a precise technical explanation for why most of the audience only heard very low sound for most of the concert. At the time, I never heard about systems being shut down due to interference of city engineers and the like, and frankly I don't think that's true, because the true reason was a simple hiccup. I finally decided to share what I know. Why am I the first? I worked as a young stagehand at the production, so this is first hand. Here you go: The sound system, in addition to the main PA system, was also comprised of delay systems - additional speakers mounted on scaffolding amidst the audience - which serve to carry the sound further. I can't remember the exact number, but from photos I can discern 9 or 10 delay towers, which seems about right and which means that the PA system was NOT underdesigned in terms of power, which is also something that gets claimed a lot. But because of one of the various power failures, most of the delay towers went mute early on in the show, which is why the majority of the audience suddenly didn't have sufficient sound reinforcement. Unfortunately, the systems in the delay tower were fitted with frequency dividing devices (Type BSS FDS-340 if you must know) that power up in the "mute" position for safety reasons (to avoid loud pops during the powering up of a PA system in the wrong order). So when the power for the delay towers came back on - which didn't take that long - the speakers naturally remained silent. As most of the delay towers were unmanned, it took some time for technicians to get through the crowd to the towers and manually un-mute the BSS dividers. That's all. You can use this info to incorporate it into the article, I can't judge if it's important or interesting enough. MillicentvonGork 23:49, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I do think it's very interesting! :-) Matzeachmann (talk) 11:42, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mangled sentence; what to do[edit]

I just discovered this article and found it to be very interesting. Overall, nicely done. The following sentence, though, seems to be missing some words. "The gates did what?" I cannot figure out the intended meaning, nor think of how to fix this.

  • "The show had a sell-out crowd of over 200,000 people, and right before the performance started the gates in 35 countries, which enabled another 500 million people to watch the concert live from their homes."

Anyone else? Hult041956 22:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Today this sentence reads,

  • "The show had a sell-out crowd of over 200,000 people, and right before the performance started the gates were opened which enabled another 200,000 people to watch."

This is a bit of a run-on, but at least it makes sense. But the meaning is entirely different. So, my new question is, Is this what really happened? There were 400,000 people present at the event? Had nothing to do with television? Is that right? (I honestly do not know; just asking). Might this need a reference? Hult041956 17:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From what I heard (I was there) 250,000 tickets were sold. The gates were opened at the beginning of the show and a large number of people were let in. I've never heard a precise number until I read about it here. I was given the impression that there were in total about 300,000 people in the crowd. I may be misinformed but I believe a reference is indeed needed. 85.228.128.210 (talk) 19:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The only number I have heard is what Roger Waters mentioned in the documentary on the DVD release (100,000 more after the gate was opened). I corrected the number in the article accordingly. --BeautifulFlying (talk) 21:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scorpions miming[edit]

In the original stage performances of The Wall, it wasn't actually Pink Floyd who performed In The Flesh, expanding on the idea in the lyrics that this is "not what you expected to see" and that it's "a surrogate band". So the Scorpions not actually playing their instruments may have been a deliberate illustration of this concept.DailyRich (talk) 16:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scorpions do indeed mime when "In the Flesh" is sung by Roger Waters on lead vocals... poor Klaus Meine is left with nothing to do than shaking a tambourine rather unsubstantially. But they actually play the whole thing ("In the Flesh?") when they start the show.Ugo1970 (talk) 23:07, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Leonard Cheshire opened the concert by blowing a World War II whistle."[edit]

My recollection of watching the TV at the time, was that Group Captain Cheshire said that the whistle was used to send troups "over the top" during the First World War. This would make more sense to me, as trench warfare, with its massed advances, was more prevalent then. Is the original source material available at all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.231.154 (talk) 21:40, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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*Nothing but a short history and track list for such a historic event. MajorB 00:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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wrong Deutsch inter wiki link[edit]

this is the right one

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall#Weitere_Auff%C3%BChrungen_und_Ver%C3%B6ffentlichungen

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