Talk:The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (video game)

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Even thought the characters seem very similar at first, they all have very different attributes, and different strengths. I´ll change the article to reflect this.Atriel 22:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Vista

Will it run on vista? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.107.73 (talk) 09:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Kick

Wasn't kicking also a move that could be used? Bibliomaniac15 21:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah ... I had it in one of the earlier versions but it somehow got removed. Add it back in if you want, or I might if you don't. Actually, was it a kick for all the characters ? I think it's different for the hobbits.~Viper~ 22:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I know for sure that the hobbits kick. Bibliomaniac15 01:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Well I haven't played in a while, so you're probably right. Feel free to add it ... ~Viper~ 01:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Who says I play it? I read the strategy guide for it. Bibliomaniac15 17:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I never said you played it. ~Viper~ 18:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Guys, I've played this a lot in the past few months and I know for sure the hobbits don't kick. Legolas, Aragorn and Faramir kick; the hobbits and Gimli push, and Gandalf pushes with his staff. By the way, is this game even based on the film? It doesn't have any music from The Return of the King, it has music from the first two films only. I found the levels The South Gate, The Pelennor Fields and The Black Gate pretty pathetic; they clearly weren't at all taken from the films. Scorpionman 17:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

That's what I thought ... gah. Of course it's based on the film. The Black Gate is taken from the film, I know that for sure. And I thought Pelennor Fields was too. Not exactly, but still. ~Viper~ 18:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

It's based on the film but it's a pretty pathetic adaptation, in my opinion. You can't fight the Witch-king, and Gothmog's not even in here! And there aren't enough levels; I mean, the game based on King Kong has what-33 levels? This game has only fifteen! It's way too abridged, and there's not even any music from the film it's based on! I think they could have done a lot better. Scorpionman 12:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, but that seems kind of off-topic. ~Viper~ 18:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Right; well, as I was saying earlier I know the physical attacks of all the characters. Hobbits and Gimli push, Gandalf pushes with his staff, Aragorn, Legolas and Faramir kick.

Just one thing; a friend of mine told me that there is a cheat code that allows you to play as Gollum (or some such evil character) This article doesn't list any cheats, yet the article for Spider-Man: The Movie lists all its available cheats. We need some of those in the article. Scorpionman 01:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that Wikipedia is NOT a strategy guide or cheat code repository. If you'd like to put cheat codes on a site, go to a gaming forum. Bibliomaniac15 03:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you tell me how to use this cheat? I've never seen it written anywhere else...

DarthSidious 10:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)DarthSidious

Re-writing the article

Wow. Currently this article reads more like a game guide than an encyclopedia. Well, I intend to change that. Over at my Sandbox, I'm going to be working on a re-write of the whole article over the next couple of weeks which should hopefully bring the article up to Good-Article status. Una Laguna^Talk 07:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Update: after a three-four-month hiatus I'm going to start working on this article again at User:UnaLaguna/Sandbox/Sandbox01. Una Laguna^Talk 12:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, would like to help! Started out with a bit of removal/shifting of content... More coming. Spiritaway5177 (talk) 18:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Made a final push in the last couple of days and finally finished. Hurrah hurrah! It only took 20 months >_>. Una Laguna^Talk 13:32, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I come back after a 6-month break and you just finished it up! Kudos to you!! Have you applied for a reassessment? Spiritaway5177 (talk) 06:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

It's been re-assessed to B. We need to take the sales figures out as they're from an unreliable source (VGChartz), but otherwise I think it's ready for the GAN process. I won't nominate it just yet as I'm about to go on holiday for three weeks, but I'd like to nominate it some time mid-August and therefore be around for the GAR. Una Laguna^Talk 15:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (video game)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I should be back to review this article later tonight. Cheers, CP 22:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, first GA review in ages, but here we go:

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Some comments:

1. There's quite a few two-sentence paragraphs here; try to expand or combine them so that they're at least three sentences long, as one or two sentence paragraphs really tend to chop up the flow and make it difficult to read.

 Done There are still a couple left, but their subject matter is completely different from those in other paragraphs, and the fact that they're both at the end of their sections means they're not so disruptive. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. There are a lot of links that that go to redirects... usually I fix these myself, but I found so many in the infobox and intro alone that I think these need to be fixed by the nominator. You should go through the entire article and make sure everything links, either by name or by pipe, to an article. A good example: I didn't know what the DICE awards were, so I clicked on the link and I got a disambiguation page that didn't help me at all.

Done the infobox, will do the rest in a few hours. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)  Done And you were right: there were loads. Una Laguna^Talk 12:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. One other link problem - in the infobox you have "Hack 'n Slash" leading to "Beat 'em up"... I'm not sure which was the intention (probably the former given the article), but the text should match the link for whichever you choose.

 Done The infobox is probably the only part of the article I haven't really worked on, and now that you've pointed it out I realise it really is a mess. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. I feel like the first two paragraphs of the gameplay section rely very heavily on quotes that would be better paraphrased... it would improve flow and readability to paraphrase somewhat.

 Done Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. In the plot section, I think the Todd Arnold quote would be more appropriate paraphrased than directly quoted. The Gamespot one is fine.

 Done Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. All direct quotations must be cited directly at the end of the quotation mark, even if there's a citation at the end of the sentence UNLESS you're using a non-quote just to connect two parts of the quote (e.g. "Frame rate issues do affect each version of the game, to varying degrees, and none of the character models for the main characters look all that remarkable, either," but conceded that "All other aspects of The Return of the King's graphics are outstanding... The game's audio is even more effective than the graphics at conveying the intensity of the action." is fine). Sorry, but dems da rules. I noticed this specifically in the Development section, although I also caught at least one in Reception so you should make certain that this is the case all over.

 Done Assuming that, for example, "RantRantRant," said X.[4] is fine and you don't need the same [4] after the quote. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. The penultimate paragraph of Development, aside from being too short, is awkward because the introductory sentence and the quotation are not connected to each other - this should be fixed when dealing with the paragraph length issue.

 Done Reworded to be more consistent with the interview sourced, and moved to the end of the second paragraph. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. Last paragraph in Development: "The Return of the King went gold on all platforms on October 10, 2003." - per WP:OBVIOUS, you should explain what "going gold" means.

 Done Linked to "went gold" to Software release life cycle#RTM. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. Under Reception: As an adaptation, the game was praised as "best movie to game conversion that has come out in a long time" and "[setting] a new standard for video game adaptations of movies." - Who said that and why is their opinion important? Yes, I know I can click on the footnotes, but a reader should be able to garner at least this basic understanding without having to click them.

 DoneMakes sense, the reader wants to know that this isn't some random Joe in the street. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

1. Reception section, paragraph 4: There's a special circle of Hell for people who begin sentences with "However". Please, for the good of your soul, fix it.

Sounds familiar, but I've not been able to find the policy on this. Simply removing it makes the paragraph less clear, so I replaced it with "in contrast". I'm open to correction, though. Una Laguna^Talk 08:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Therefore, I'm putting the article on hold for one week to allow for these changes to be made. I'm always open to discussion on any of them items, so if you think I'm wrong on something (I can't say that I'm not a bit rusty - speaking of bad sentences) leave your thoughts here and we'll discuss. I'll be checking this page at least daily, unless something comes up, so you can be sure I'll notice any comments left here. Cheers, CP 05:23, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, everything looks much better now... I fixed a few redirects and removed the DAB link (it was just a circular redirect), and a few small issues: I still think that the two-paragraph sentences have potential for expansion/merging, but that's just my personal opinion so I won't hold back a GA pass for it... something to think about for FA though. Same with the quotations... I think the quotation method implies that even in the circumstance you described the reference should come right after the quote (sentence phrasing aside), but again, too small and too subjective to be picky about pre-FA. I think the "however" thing is more a English-language rule rather than a Wikipedia policy, but it is listed as a potential issue at the GA cheatsheet. In any case, "in contrast" makes me happy.

Therefore, I am passing this article as a Good Article. Congratulations and thank you for all your hard work! Cheers, CP 20:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks for your work reviewing the article :D Una Laguna^Talk 21:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

A-class assessment

CommentSupport: My only problem with this article is that the GameInformer reference is dead. Besides that, the rest of the article is good. GamerPro64 (talk) 15:05, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Replaced with print reference (although the page itself can be accessed here with the Wayback Machine). Una Laguna^Talk 16:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Support - I wanted to support this for awhile now, but wanted to see if anyone else found issue. Promoting to A class--Teancum (talk) 19:09, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

How many discs?

How many discs are there in each version of the game? I bought a used copy for PC and it has three CD-ROMs, install disc one and two and a Play Disc, but the case can hold four discs. Bizzybody (talk) 08:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The PC version comes on three CDs, as your version has. It's not uncommon for a game to be packaged in a box which can hold more CDs than needed. Una Laguna^Talk 13:06, 23 June 2010 (UTC)