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Religious Affiliation

Syracuse University has no affiliation with the Methodist Church anymore. Please see below:

http://www.princetonreview.com/SyracuseUniversity.aspx (under "Religious Affiliation" in the "At a Glance Section" it says NONE)

http://graduate-school.phds.org/rankings/economics/university/profile/syracuse/721 (it says Religious Affiliation: Not Applicable)

http://www.cappex.com/colleges/Syracuse-University-196413 (it says Religious Affiliation: None)

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/syracuse-ny/syracuse-university-2882 (it says Religious Affiliation: N/A, not applicable)

http://www.campuscorner.com/new-york-colleges/syracuse-university.htm (it says Religious Affiliation: None)

http://www.venturescholar.org/portals/index.php?mid=191 (it says Religious Affiliation: No Preference or Affiliation)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.160.233 (talk) 15:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Please check the official sources cited in the article along with the book source. Perhaps these tertiary organizations are not accurately informed. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 16:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The above sources include US News & World Report and the Princeton Review. These are credible sources and national publications. Your sources do not explicitly state that the school is affiliated with the church. Your sources consider Syracuse to be part of the Methodist heritage because it was founded by the Methodist Church. This I agree with. However, it is no longer affiliated at the present time, as evidenced by multiple sources. Here are more sources that state Syracuse University has no religious affiliation:

http://collegeclicktv.com/videos?fr_chl=d4bb4c4032c00a2904b9909caa98002972314bd4

http://collegeprowler.com/syracuse-university/statistics/

http://www.enotes.com/syracuse-university-guide/

http://www.meritaid.com/meritScholarships/Syracuse-University-196413

Once again, your tertiary sources may not be informed. The International Association of Methodist-related Schools, Colleges, and Universities states that Syracuse is affiliated with the United Methodist Church. The official website for the United Methodist Church states that Syracuse is a "United Methodist school." Furthermore, a 2002 published book states that "Syracuse remains definitely Methodist." Please gain a consensus for removing the referenced information before altering the article. The sources I presented are official ones while yours are not. With regards, Anupam^Talk 19:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Your sources are not "official." They are from a religious organization. I am an alumni of Syracuse University and I can definitely attest that Syracuse is not affiliated with the Methodist Church. You cannot discount my TEN SOURCES as incorrect just because you want to advance your religious agenda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.160.233 (talk) 19:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

My sources are indeed official and come from the organization in question. Please honor consensus and read WP:AGF. With regards, Anupam^Talk 19:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Your sources are not "official" because they do not come from Syracuse University themselves. Your sources are as much tertiary as mine. The organization in question here is Syracuse University, not the United Methodist Church. I actually called the Syracuse University Archives myself at (315) 443-3335 and they said the University is no longer affiliated with the United Methodist Church. Anyone is free to contact the University Archives to find out for themselves. Their website is http://archives.syr.edu/. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.160.233 (talk) 19:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Really? I just called the same number and the attendant stated that she was aware that the university was founded by Methodists and will inquire about the status of the current affiliation and would get back to me on the details. When I hear from them, I will let you know. In the meantime, the article will present the authoritative information as is. You should make yourself aware of Wikipedia policy and understand that removing information without establishing a consensus constitutes vandalism; it is for this reason that your edits were reverted and you received a warning from an administrator. In the future, take the time to establish a consensus before removing longstanding information from an article. With regards, Anupam^Talk 20:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. I will not touch the article until a consensus has been reached. However, once you do hear back from them, please let us know. If they say the university is no longer affiliated with the church, then that should be taken as authoritative.

I have also contacted the United Methodist Church at InfoServ and have asked them to explain the relationship between Syracuse University and the United Methodist Church. With regards, Anupam^Talk 20:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Please see below topic. An official from Syracuse University has requested an edit. Syracuse University's religious affiliation is nonsectarian. Merriam-Websters Dictionary defines "nonsectarian" as "not affiliated with or restricted to a particular religious group." Please see: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nonsectarian. Syracuse University's official webpage indicates the University as nonsectarian. Please see: http://coursecatalog.syr.edu/introduction.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.236.160.233 (talk) 17:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I received confirmation of the affiliation by both Syracuse University and the United Methodist Church. Please see the evidence below. Thanks, Anupam^Talk 21:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Anupam, you agreed that you would not put "religious affiliation" in the info box. Please honor this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.241.179 (talk) 20:50, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

AAS Merger

Hi, i created the original AAS page but took it down in order to allow for fact/additions to historical information and general info checking due to some conflicting information-- I kept the changes and references added by others and will add it back shortly. I think this should not be merged.--MsTingaK (talk) 05:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Image deletion discussion

Relevant deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2011_December_30#File:Syracuse Orange Football.png.--GrapedApe (talk) 17:28, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

GA status

The Media section is tagged as missing some references. The "Syracuse University Ambulance", "Athletics", parts of "Campus" and other sections are also very light on references. These will need to be fixed if the article is to retain its GA status. AIRcorn (talk) 02:09, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

School color

The school color is orange, not orange and blue. See the following: http://archives.syr.edu/history/orange.html http://studentactivities.syr.edu/traditions/index.html While blue is used often as an accent color with the orange, orange is the official school color. Note that SU is one of the few schools with a single school color. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.19.0.38 (talk) 05:19, 4 March 2013 (UTC)