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Triple H

I've heard in multiple interviews that Triple H has mentioned his return at least before Summerslam, and I know it's not relavant enough to add to the article, but does anybody know if Triple H is suppose to appear on that? -- Kings bibby win 08:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

No, nobody knows for certain, and nobody will know until he actually appears, so nothing should be added. Even if it's announced he will return on a certain date, it should not be added, because something might happen to prevent it (e.g. a re-injury, travel problem etc). --Dave. 11:46, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It's likely that sometime between Cyber Sunday and Summerslam, Triple H's Summerslam match will be announced, in which case we can post info about his return. But until then, we cannot post mere speculation. (Sawyer 11:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC))

Triple H is suppose to make his return on the August 13 edition of RAW.

Cyber Sunday is in November.BlueShrek 13:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

JR stated last night at GAB that triple h will return around summerslam

I don't think we should add "Triple H will return at SummerSlam" on the article. Even if he is going to return, that's not important to the article. MITB LS 18:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
It an official thing pertaining to SummerSlam, it stays.-Hornetman16 (talk) 01:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it is relavent to the article, as it is stated on his superstar page at WWE.com that he will return at Summerslam.--Keano62871 11:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedia, not a newswire. When he returns (if he returns, his legs are very fragile) even then it will not be notable. We can't have every PPV article saying "this was when this wrestler returned from injury" every month, especially as there is a list of injured wrestlers at the moment. A mention on HHH's article will be enough. Darrenhusted 12:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
It's encyclopedia too.--Hornetman16 (talk) 20:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
If you were going for "it's encyclopedic too" then I'd have to say it isn't. How can an announcement which will not be relevant in a month's time be encyclopedic. A statment like "HHH returned from injury at SummerSlam 2007." in HHH's article is encyclopedic, any mention here is not. Darrenhusted 12:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

At least leave it till the event. It is encyclopedic for now.--Hornetman16 (talk) 03:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

It's not encylopedic now, or ever. It's news which will date. This is not a newswire. Darrenhusted 21:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
How is the information about that the event sold out in 40 minutes encyclopedic? In my oppinion, thats news too! So if you would remove everything thats news, the article would be nearly empty. I agree that the info should only be added in the Triple H article, but the argumentation with the newswire is ridiculous. Diivoo 11:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

WWE has announced the return of Triple H as an event at this year's SummerSlam PPV. Therefore, Wikipedia should acknowledge that Triple H is returning at SummerSlam, just like WWE has been doing for weeks. - RYANonWIKIPEDIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by RYANonWIKIPEDIA (talk • contribs)

The article is locked for a week, so come back in 7 days. Darrenhusted 22:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, he is advertised to return at the next SNME tapings, which are before Summerslam.--Keano62871 11:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a reference for a possible SNME return? If so, post it here, and if not, we can only go off of what WWE announces. As they have stated that HHH will return at Summerslam, not SNME, that is what we have to run with. And also, I think that we should post something on this article about HHH's Summerslam return. After all, it has been officially announced by WWE, and we post scheduled matches all the time. (Sawyer 20:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC))

Posters, Posters everywhere but not a drop to drink

Jackass at Summerslam Cancelled/ All References should be removed (the poster)

Jackass will not be at Summerslam, due to the recent death of Chris Benoit Steve-o has cancelled his appearance and Bam suffered an injury and will not be able to make the PPV. Originally it was to be Umaga vs The Jackass members/crew, but now WWE is promoting Jeff Hardy vs Umaga for Summerslam.

Due to this I believe The Poster should be removed because WWE has announced a Match for Summerslam and has put up a link without a promotional poster and starting with all PPVS after WM 23, the PPV promo poster has always been the main image/headline not the main event match. Also All Jackass references should be removed.

Unless reliable source has that written, it will NOT be removed.--Hornetman16 (talk) 23:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Hornetman. And first off bam wasnt involved to begin with. it was never stated that umaga and the jackass guys would be fighting they were just on a poster together. 3rd the link to the site isnt even on the main page yet. 4th i got a postcard promotion thing with the poster on 3 days ago with a package so i dont think theyed be sending those out if the match was cancelled. so unless you can give a reliable source dont add anything and nothing is going to be removed.--Jwein 02:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll just be happy to see dirtsheets get the better of this site again. Suffice to say, you guys seriously need to start reconsidering your priorities.

And it was Knoxville walking out that caused the deal to fall apart Dr. R.K.Z

theres no proof of that or the fact that the jackass thing is cancelled. what your saying is pure speculation. and do you know what dirtsheets are just speculation to. speculation does not belong on wikipedia ok. --Jwein 17:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

PWInsider.com has reported that Jackass will not be there due to Benoit. They are a credible source.--Bedford 17:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Until the there is a poster from wwe or an offical statement from them nothing is to be removed bedford show me a link because when i go there all i see is ads.--Jwein 17:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

PWRshow.com-- bulletproof 3:16 18:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
I believe in the Wrestling project we only add or take away stuff bassed on information actually from the company.--Hornetman16 (talk) 18:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

And we have a perfect example of why so many do not take Wikipedia seriously. WWE.com is know for blending the fake with the real, so you can not trust anything on it with a few grains of salt first. I'm guessing y'all actually believe wrestling is entirely on the up and up, and nothing is pre-determined. *rolls eyes* --Bedford 18:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Bedford just so you know i know wrestling is not on the up and up i watch it because its entertaining. i watch as if its any other scripted series.o and bulletproof a youtube video is not proof. thats like me making a video saying that golds gonna fall from the sky theres no relability to it.--Jwein 19:02, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

And we're arguing on this subject why? THE BOTTOM LINE IS: Policy say we can't add or take away things not confirmed by either US Television or THe company it's self. In this case WWE.com or the Corporate Web Site. PERIOD!!!!!--Hornetman16 (talk) 19:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Anything further will end up in a LEVEL 1 SPAM WARNING.--Hornetman16 (talk) 19:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Well it happened. The affiliates page just released the new poster. I reduced its size for WP:FU reasons. -- bulletproof 3:16 18:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
That plus TMZ.com is also reporting no Jackass at SummerSlam this year. [1]-- bulletproof 3:16 18:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Mind providing a direct WWEAffiliates URL to the poster? Because it's not in their image library on the site, where every other poster is. Pretty sure that's a fake poster occupying space on the page right now, considering posters from WWEAffiliates don't look like that with the rounded corners on them. Only posters from iNDEMAND have that rounded corners border on them, and the iNDEMAND page for SummerSlam doesn't show that picture.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.141.173.154 (talk • contribs)

I removed it until there is a link provided.--Jwein 03:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC) The poster will keep being removed until a link is provided.--Jwein 23:17, 27 July 2007 (UTC) Jeff is susspended for 30 days.

I have never seen that poster on TV. Can anyone give me the link to where on wwe.com i can find it? Due to your great "rules", it has to be somewhere there... Otherwise i wonder why thats so for matches. Diivoo 00:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, they promoted it at ozzfest as late as the 5th of august! -Chris

Jackass advertising

In the September 2007 issue of WWE magazine, the first advertisement in the magazine, is the Umaga, and all of the Jackasses buried in the sand. I thought they were to remove all mentions? --User:Atomic Religione

The magazine was printed before they cancelled the Jackass involvment. The magazines were probably already printed and therefore they couldn't remove those advertisements. SAH-DennyCrane 10:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Poster

Should it be included in the article that there was originally a poster featuring Umaga and Jackass that was scrapped? Tywddle 20:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Posters for events, movies, and such change all the time. Its no different here really.-- bulletproof 3:16 20:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Is the Spanish Triple H poster the official WWE SummerSlam 2007 poster, or is it just the Spanish version of it? Virakhvar321 05:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The real one can be found at www.wweaffiliates.com --Keano62871 16:29, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't really help matters that WWE.com currently doesn't have a SummerSlam page up. Steveweiser 00:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes they do, here. Stormin' Foreman 00:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
They just don't have a wallpaper up yet. Darrenhusted 01:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I found an English poster. Leor Natanov 03:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Former posters

Who keeps adding this info about the Rey Mysterio and Umaga poters. Are they really relevant? Mark handscombe 09:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

It has a reference. Darrenhusted 11:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
So? I don't think it's relevant, things get changed all the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark handscombe (talk • contribs)
The Rey Mysterio poster shouldn't even be mentioned. It was proven to be a completely fake poster the day it started showing up on wrestling sites. WWE never released a Rey Mysterio SummerSlam poster, the only poster released was the Jackass/Umaga one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.141.173.154 (talk • contribs)

New poster for Summerslam

Please can someone update the poster for this PPV.

It has just been released by WWE: http://cramnetwork.com/ss2.gif —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crayola0606 (talk • contribs)

It needs to go through the process of being uploaded. Darrenhusted 21:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Matches

Matches

As far as I'm aware of, no matches have been anounced for Summerslam unless someone can prove me wrong (poster alone doesn't count). Otherwise the matches should be removed. Tywddle 21:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Try wacthing Raw ECW and Smackdown or going to WWE.com

New Topic

- World Heavyweight Championship: The Great Khali (c) vs. Batista. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.117.67.147 (talk • contribs)

Not been officially confirmed yet, either on TV or on the website. Steveweiser 20:51, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Rey Mysterio vs Chavo was announced at the smackdown tapings —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.83.5 (talk • contribs) Rey Mysterio vs Chavo Guerreo was announced at the smackdown tapings in Phoenix- kowackoto.piczo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.83.5 (talk • contribs)

The Great Kahli vs. Batista has been confirmed.76.110.82.251 15:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

New Matches

on smakdown didn't mat hardy challenge mvp for the united states championship in a match where hardy choses the stipulation (probably ladder or tlc) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.236.108.1 (talk • contribs)

I really can't make out what you're saying. Darrenhusted 12:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

matt hardy tried 2 challenge mvp 4 da us title but mvp turned him down.Then hardy said he could beat him mvp in any match anytime which sort of implied maybe a ladder match happening at summerslam.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.233.105 (talk • contribs)

So you want to list a match that has been implied? Not gonna happen. Darrenhusted 10:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The match wasn't announced officially, but it might happen. On the August 3rd edition of Smackdown!, MVP and Matt Hardy faced each other in an arm wrestling match, and then a real one. I don't think we should mention this in the article until it is official.Vic93 02:26, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
It might happen is not reason enough to list a match. Wait for an announcement. Darrenhusted 10:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

matches

when was it announced that a match between rey mysterio and chavo will take place at summerslam. was it announced or is this vandialism? Matt. August 1, 2007 It's vandalism, the page is locked for a week, so I'll try to get it taken off. Darrenhusted 18:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

It's now gone. Darrenhusted 18:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Rey vs Chavo was announced but not on TV yet, at the tuesday tapings of smackdown Vickie Guerreo made the match, Smackdown is taped on Tuesdays and aired on friday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.83.5 (talk • contribs)

It's not listed here [2], so it will not be added. Darrenhusted 08:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Hornswoggle wasnt part of the Cruiser's matchon the summerslam page, yet he was in the actual PPV. So I think you should add Rey vs. Chavo (even though that it will air tonight). —Preceding unsigned comment added by JV7 (talk • contribs)

it was just announced so add it

{{editprotected}} The new World Heavyweight title match needs to be added NOW. Batista vs. The Great Khali (c)--Hornetman16 (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Hornetman, please stop being so uncivil and demanding. That demanding tone won't make anyone want to help you. Bmg916Speak 01:05, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I withdrawl the demanding tone, I sounded that was cause I was excited sorry. Anyway now Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo gurerro needs to be added.--Hornetman16 (talk) 01:10, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
This page is only semiprotected. Any editor older than four days should be able to freely edit its contents. Cheers. --MZMcBride 01:56, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
FYI, when I requested this it was fully protected.--Hornetman16 (talk) 17:55, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Triple H vs King Booker

Ziddio is a sponsor of WWE, or affiliate, and they are announcing HHH vs King Booker, which is a promo from WWE, not Ziddio, from WWE. To view the promo click here, so is this reliable enought to post as a match? --Truko9308 02:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Until it is officially announced on some WWE programming, or it appears on WWE.com, it is not official and should not be added to the page. Virakhvar321 05:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
There is a link at the bottom of the article for the official SummerSlam page, if it ain't on there then it can't be on here. Darrenhusted 10:21, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Ziddio is an official partner of wwe. this is an official wwe video. so i think the match should be added. Diivoo 13:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

OPINION - I think it should be. But I'm not an adimn.--Hornetman16 (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

No. What part of until its on wwe.com or on tv dont you understand?Wrestlinglover420 17:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely not. Must be on WWE.com or TV as said above, and about 10 million times each month. Gavyn Sykes 18:05, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Why can't these people get it through their heads?--Hornetman16 (talk) 18:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Because they would rather leave the public in the dark over developments.

But in the case of the video promo, even someone like me would not put it up. Batstia vs Mark Henry had a promo for the Great American Bash in 2006, and the match did not come to pass due to Henry's injury. The preview had been up for a month before the match was announced though, and it was confirmed when his injury occured. Anything can happen before and after the match is announced

(talk) 19:23 PM 4th August 2007

thats why i think it should be added. what is this? a copy of wwe.com? i think this page should be a combination of all sources or pages, that could be taken seriously, like webpages of wwe-partners, or official wwe videos. I agree with you, that everything can change. But we are not engraving tombstones here, this is a page that can easily be changed. So if anything happens to either booker or hunter, the match can easily be taken out of the card. But this is an official wwe video, so it could be taken as it was on tv. official video - tv. you get it? And before anyone now again tells me, that matches are only added if confirmed at wwe.com or tv, I KNOW THAT. i'm just questioning the sense of that. Diivoo 23:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

It's one I have trouble dealing with also, I think it's completly irresponsible to the viewers and consumers, it even helps BOOST sales by pointing out these approved videos exist and verify everything dirtsheets have reported for months. The only downswing is if the performers are hurt. WP can inform viewers that there is a problem and alert them in time, giving them the chance to purchase the PPV or not, but that would mean depending on the dirtsheets, and they despise that. (talk) 01:12 AM 4th August 2007

Maybe the match could be added with a note, that it is not yet confirmed by wwe.com, with a link to the ziddio-video. So users can decide whether they take it serious or not. Diivoo 10:22, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Here is a link for you, is the HHH/Booker match listed there, if not then don't add it. If you already know the policy on this then why are you generating paragraphs of un-needed discussion. The match will be announced in due course, just wait. Darrenhusted 10:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Diivo, allow the viewer to be aware of the match's official video and the possibility it could happen, but don't list the match.

(talk) 17:02 PM 5th August 2007

NO.Wrestlinglover420 16:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


Wow, that was SUCH a mature, intelligent, and reasonable response. I'm glad WP was humiliated in the media during the Benoit incident with attitudes like this. Pathetic.

(talk) 18:05 PM 5th August 2007

everyone is talking about a policy here. can anyone tell me where i can find this policy, especially the part that says, that matches can only be added when announced on wwe.com or tv? i know that this isn't said like that, but something like that has to be there. Diivoo 17:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Read what Wikipedia is not, it is not a crystal ball, nor is it a news page. When matches are officially announced then they are added, this is how all PPV pages are run until the night, then the results are put in and the page rearranged to reflect the card. For example, Umaga was to face Jeff Hardy, and then people kept adding Umaga vs Jeff Hardy Ladder Match for IC title, then Jeff is suspended for a month and the match is no longer on. A match does not go on the article until it is announced, I have no idea why that concept is so hard to grasp. Darrenhusted 17:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I was asking WHERE i can find this policy. so i have 2 suggestions for you. 1) you start reading before responding 2) you put your comment under the one u are refering to. Diivoo 18:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Here's a question for you, is the match on this page ? If not, then there is no reason for a rumour to be plced on this page. Darrenhusted 18:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

You'll find someone has already posted that remark, and quite frankly, we do not care what WWE.COM says nor thinks, the FACT, the UNDISPUTED FACT, remains that a WWE PRODUCED PROMO FOR HUNTER VS BOOKER IS ON A WEBSITE HOLDING AN OFFICIAL WWE COMPETITION.

That is NOT a "rumour" pal, that is CLEAR and PRESENT visual EVIDENCE that the match is being prepared to exist barring injuries or other events. THAT is something that is EASY to grasp. Jeff vs Umaga does not have a promo for it because it would have been a mid-card match, and not a co-main event the way Cena vs Orton and Hunter vs Booker would be.

I would not add the match, but I would acknowledge that the promo for the Hunter/Booker match exists.

(talk) 19:17 PM 5th August 2007

And Rey was on the GAB poster, a promo, which as not aired on RAW, is not evidence of a match. Answer my question is it listed at this site? If the answer is no then that is the answer as to whether this match should be listed. Darrenhusted 18:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Darrenhusted - i have given up the last hope, that you can read. why? because there is no information on that on this site... you are comparing a poster, which everyone can make and taht existed a few months before the event with an official promo. The Edge/Kane match allready was on wwe.com and it didnt happen. we all know why. So I totally agree with R.K.Z.

Does that link not work? If not try www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam07, and on it you will find three matches listed, the three which are on this article, and not the Booker T/HHH match. Give it 24 hours and it will be announced on RAW, but as soon as you start adding unsourced matches it is a call to IP vandals and the like to start adding crap. The HHH match stays out until it is announced. Darrenhusted 18:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

lalala and i still dont think you can read. And I will not believe you until it says on this site "Darrenhusted can read". Diivoo 19:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

If I were you I'd take a look at WP:CIVIL. Darrenhusted 19:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

proof me wrong and tell me, why there is a difference between matches and posters. there are a lot of posters in the internet for upcomming events, none of them are on tv, none of them are on wwe.com i apologize for insulting you, but you just keep ignoring what i say and repeating what you say. Diivoo 19:08, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I've seen this match advertised on WWE TV Ads, and it is likely after Bookers promos over the last few weeks. --Keano62871 21:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Do we ask to be insulted and condescended to? No, you are the ones who are overreacting and acting utterly immature. We are wrestling fans, we are the paying public, and we know better, and want others to be as informed as we are.

Maybe the policy is only half to blame, because with the reactions I have seen against the consumers and fans from the "preservationists" of the policy, it's all to do with power and egotism. Egotism over a flimsy article about half naked men in pants suplexing each other, hardly a priority over more important articles. (I dont mean to insult wrestling, just raising the mirror to some faces and hope that they stare at their reflection)

And if the vandals start infesting the article, WHOOP-DE-FLIPPING-DO. Uudo any vandalism. Articles here are vandalized all the time.

Acknowledge the video exists, that is all we are asking. You do not need to add the match, just throw the bone out there to the curious. The fact you will not respect even this proves you would rather this mess continue, both now, and for future PPV events that require advanced alerts. It's foolish behaviour. Utterly foolish

Work WITH us, not against us.

(talk) 23: 38 PM 5th August 2007

What about a new catagorie for upcoming events, with links to official promo videos. not everyone knows where to find those videos and if you only put links to official videos (like the ones from wwe.com, or the one we are talking about here), there shouldn't be a problem. oh, and i just want to mention, that - again - no one can answer my question... strange thing... Diivoo 16:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Just add the link to the site the promo can be seen on, but don't list Triple H vs King Booker as a match that is concrete. This article should become a catalouge of intentions the company had for the PPV. From the aborted Jackass angle, to the existing promos. The same with promos and posters that did not make the final product for other PPVS. WP is an archive, and official products should be archived also even if they do not come to be definitive.

(talk) 20:03 PM 6th August 2007

so, no one said anything against it, so i put the link in yesterday. bulletproof took i out, saying what i think means "not necessary"... well, maybe just leave it to the readers if it is necessary or not. Some may be interested in it. Diivoo 07:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I just saw a commercial on WWE TV promoting the match. It was during the WWE Experience. Somone add it because it wont let me Mjtwh 02:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not calling you a liar, but without a link we can't verify it, and as such, we can't post it. (Sawyer 08:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

What? How can there be a link to something on TV? isn't that the whole point? WWE TV - OR - the internet? It was on.......64.230.233.223 13:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I tell you what, why don't you go to the official SummerSlam page at the bottom of this article, if the HHH/Booker match is on there then you could use that as the link. Darrenhusted 15:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

now thats strange... why do we change the rules now? do u really want to make this a complete copy of the wwe summerslam page? Diivoo 16:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Ignore him, he's beaten, he knows it, he's just inflating a shattered ego maintaining an argument long settled.

(talk) 00: 51 PM 14th August 2007

Tagline

This article states that the tagline for the PPV is 'The party is over', but not once in the previous weeks SmackDown/Raw shows have they once used it. However, they often use the tagline, 'the biggest party of the summer', when talking about SummerSlam. Does anybody think this should be included in the article in some way?Ocelot 18:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

They refer to the event in general that way just as WrestleMania is referred to as the "Grandest stage of them all". However that tagline was actually used for the 2005 SummerSlam, rather than the event in general.-- bulletproof 3:16 20:09, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Kane/Finlay

Just got back from Smackdown event. Kane/Finlay was announced. No MVP/Hardy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.110.43.240 (talk) 15:22, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

jamie noble

vs hornswaggle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.156.142.218 (talk) 22:19, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

They didn't say that they would wrestle at Summerslam, they just said the match would take place in the future. The Hybrid 22:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Jackass involvement

Shouldn't the cancelled Jackass participation still be noted for historical purposes? Early promitional material featured them. The poster with the cast and Umaga was even shown here until the Triple H one was released, and the brief teaser video ad was aired a few times, and is even on the Vengeance DVD I picked up this week. Sure it didn't happen, but it still noteworthy to document the publicized intention with as much as was promoted: "early promotional materials featured Jackass as being involved with the event in some capacity but was later cancelled before any details aside from their appearing were announced" seems fair to me CyclopsScott 23:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it should. Jackass was supposedly the theme to it, but it might not be too relevant to the article though. It, although should be noted in the future trivia section. -- KBW1 05:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I also agree..take this up with an Admin.--Hornetman16 (talk) 10:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
No article should have a trivia section, and as for the whole jackass saga I suggest you RTFA. Darrenhusted 13:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Now thats un called for. Aren't these talk pages here to improve articles. What you did was not improvement. -- KBW1 02:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Have you read the archives? If not then it was called for. Darrenhusted 14:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
The way he said it was "uncalled for". Have you read the Talk page guidlines? Be polite. -- KBW1 00:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree that it was pretty rude. If you had said the same thing in a nicer way, then there wouldn't have been any problems, but now there is an offended user, and rightfully so. The civility policy exists for a reason. This is a top ten website, so there will always be people around who aren't aware of past discussions that have taken place about a certain subject. You should get into the habit of dealing with it nicely now, since being nice is more efficient, and if you continue to be impolite, then you will be wasting a bunch of your time, and other people's time in the long run. Peace, The Hybrid 06:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Well said Hybrid. I shouldn't try to let it affect me though. I just don't want to have any problems and I want to try to keep our talk pages in order. Thanks. -- KBW1 05:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Dark Match results in

Headline Planet is reporting the dark match results. Should this be added right now???

Lance Cade and Trvor Murdoch def. Paul London and Brian Kendrick gravediggerfuneral

MVP vs. Hardy

Hasn't that match been announced for SS yet? --Endlessdan 19:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe tonight. TonyFreakinAlmeida 20:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

You mean Friday.Wrestlinglover420 21:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Mvp vs. Hardy was not announced. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.110.82.251 (talk) 22:24, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

  • I heard that they could be teaming up soon, I dunno if now by JBL this past Friday Roxy 00:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

CM Punk vs John Morrison

Tell me someone did couln't have noticed that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.138.137.5 (talk) 01:03, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Notice what? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:37, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Time for Khali/Batista?

SuperSonicTH 03:02, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The Boogeyman vs Big Daddy V

This rivalry has been going on for over a month so it still may be added at the last second. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.172.61.190 (talk) 23:28, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

Nope!76.110.82.251 01:59, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

We should add a trivia section, i have the first point! it would be about how HHH and Mysterio won in similar fashion, both their opponents executed their finisher on their challengers but they kicked out of the pin AND well, both returning Superstars won. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristoCracker (talk • contribs) 10:45, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Trivia sections end up filled with fancruft, so i is best to not have them. What you suggested would count as fancruft, so that proves my point. Cheers, The Hybrid 14:19, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Something should be added about Cena receiving one of th worst reactions ever, I mean come on they were asking Orton to break his neck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.10.84 (talk) 15:18, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Yeah.... That's also not trivia, or even really remotely close to being trivia. TheJudge310 23:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
There is info in Cena's article about his signature polarized chants at PPVs, but it doesn't belong in this article. It is notable about Cena, but since this is just another PPV where people hated Cena (like the two preceding WrestleManias) it isn't notable to this article. The Hybrid 01:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
What about Jackass? Should not it be noted about how they were formely scheduled to appear? -- KBW1 02:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
In the archives there is a discussion showing a consensus to not include the Jackass information. While I personally don't agree with it, a consensus is a consensus :(. Peace, The Hybrid 01:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Divas Battle Royal

This was the first Summerslam in 7 years to feature a Women's contest. I think that that deserves to be mentioned.

Maryse and Cherry

Should we mention they were supposed to compete in the battle royal but never did.Anormalwwefan 19:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No beacuse they were not in the match.

Considering, you present a valid source stating they were supposed to be in the Battle Royal, it's still not notable enough to incldude into the article. -- KBW1 03:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Diva Battle Royal

The SummerSlam page says: "...William Regal...arranged for a Battle Royal among all WWE Divas..." So should we leave out the individual names? Stormin' Foreman 02:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

WWE.com has announced which Divas will participate. If more are announced, they will be added to the article.-- bulletproof 3:16 02:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
On the graphic shown towards the end of RAW during the rundown of SummerSlam matches, Kristal was shown as one of the participants. Should she be added now? Or should we just wait until the match happens at this Sunday? Virakhvar321 05:52, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least we know now Cherry wasnt involved in it. Its just too bad Beth is too strong or else Michelle would've won -ChristoCracker 10:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC) BTW, Michellle's great at Battle royals! she won the memorial day one and she almost won the summerslam one -ChristoCracker 10:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

This was the first Summerslam in 7 years to feature a Women's contest. I think that that deserves to be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.201.182.142 (talk) 21:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

austin/mvp

why does it say ""afterwards, austin delivered a stunner to mvp". The contest never even started. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.10.84 (talk) 10:59, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Yup —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.87.26 (talk) 12:52, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

your right —Preceding unsigned comment added by MC RIDE (talk • contribs) 17:13, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

The results page on WWE.com lists Steve Austin as defeating MVP. Technically, the contest never happened, and technically it wasn't even a sanctioned competition (there was no referee, and, more importantly, no rules or established way to win), but I think we should go with what WWE.com says, and list it as Austin defeating MVP. Calgary 04:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

It was supposed to be a drinking contest and we know the rules (WWE had one before, at SNME with Austin and JBL). However, this one never even started. TJ Spyke 00:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Tagline

The tagline for the event was "The Party is Over", as seen on the promotional poster. Just because it wasn't once mentioned on T.V. doesn't mean it's not the tagline. Some examples of this would be Armageddon 2006 and New Year's Revolution 2007, the tagline for Armageddon was "The End...Is Only the Beginning" and the tagline for NYR was "The Revolution Continues...", yet neither of them were once mentioned on T.V.. --  Kip Smithers  23:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

No, it was "The Biggest Party of the Summer", which was used every single time Summerslam was advertised [3] --Maestro25 18:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
And why can't we just list both? Like on the WrestleMania X page for example Mark handscombe 13:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Right well there's been no objection so I'm listing both. Mark handscombe 08:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. The Hybrid 08:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sellout Date

Let's reach a consensus before this gets out of hand, please. Gavyn Sykes 21:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not a big deal to me, but selling out in only 40 minutes seems notable to me. TJ Spyke 21:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Hooray! Another edit war involving Monnitewars! It's sourced. It's not a problem. It should stay. GaryColemanFan 22:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Agreed with. KipSmithers T/C 22:08, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
It's trivia and violates WP:TRIVIA.--Monnitewars (talk) 22:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it counts as trivia. I suggest you don't revert again Monnite, you have reverted 3 times and the next time could result in a temporary block. TJ Spyke 22:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah it does.--Monnitewars (talk) 22:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The least that can be taken out id the 40 minutes part which I'm doing.--Monnitewars (talk) 22:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The selling out in 40 minutes part is the notable part. I hate to say it, but you've violated the 3RR now (partial reverts still count as reverts) since you've reverted 4 times in the last 24 hours in what is clearly a content dispute. TJ Spyke 22:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

This asserts the notability of the event, so not only is it not trivia, but it makes this article pass WP:N more soundly. The Hybrid 23:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:TRIVIA isn't a hammer you can use to knock your argument home with since it states "avoid creating lists of miscellaneous facts" - this isn't a list of facts, it actually follows the policy and incorporates it into the text and is thus in accordance with all policies and guidelines. So I'd advice you to do two things - read the policy and learn what it actually says before using it as a (failing) argument. MPJ-DK 03:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Not to mention that WP:TRIVIA even says: "This guideline does not suggest removing trivia sections, or moving them to the talk page. - If information is otherwise suitable, it is better that it be poorly presented than not presented at all." and "This guideline does not suggest omitting unimportant material. - This guideline does not attempt to address the issue of what information is included or not — only how it is organized." (not that both apply, just that most people only seem to read the first sentence of that page). TJ Spyke 03:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
There is that as well, most people actually miss that one too as they tend to delete even list trivia - so that's a very good point to remember. I think someone is clearly wrong and should leave the article alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MPJ-DK (talk • contribs) 07:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Report

Hi there, i started to write a detailed report, but because english is not my native language, i guess, i made some grammar/spelling mistakes. so i would appreciate it if someone could read through it and correct my mistakes. I will finish the report tomorrow, maybe you can give me some feedback. Diivoo 21:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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