Talk:Suge Knight/Archive 2

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Tupac Shakur was shot multiple times in a drive-by shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada on September 7, 1996 and died six days later on September 13, 1996. When Shakur's East Coast rival, The Notorious B.I.G. (aka Biggie Smalls), was murdered in a similar drive-by shooting in Los Angeles, California on March 9, 1997, speculation arose that Knight was involved and that B.I.G.'s death was a revenge killing.[15] Former Death Row artists like Snoop Dogg would later state that Suge was involved in Tupac's murder as well.[16]

A theory accusing Suge Knight in the deaths of both Biggie and Tupac was that of ex-detective Russell Poole, whose claim inspired writer Randall Sullivan and filmmaker Nick Broomfield. The conjecture was that Knight had Tupac killed before he could part ways with Knight's Death Row label and then conspired to kill Biggie to divert attention from himself in Tupac's murder.[17] The convoluted Biggie murder theory implicated Suge Knight, a rogue cop, a mortgage broker named Amir Muhammad (who was never a police suspect) along with the chief of police and the LAPD in a conspiracy to murder and cover up the murder of Biggie. The Biggie theory formed the basis of a 500 million dollar lawsuit by the Wallace family against Los Angeles. A key source for Poole's theory was Kevin Hackie. Hackie had implicated Suge Knight and David Mack. Hackie, a former Death Row associate, said that he had knowledge of involvement between Suge Knight and David Mack and other LAPD officers. His information was used by the Wallace family in their suit against the city of LA for Biggie's death. But Hackie later told Chuck Philips that the Wallace attorneys had altered his declarations.[18] The $500 million suit brought by the Wallace family against the city of LA based on the Russell Poole theory was dismissed in 2010.

A 2005 story by Philips, showing that another main source for the Poole/Sullivan theory of Biggie's murder implicating Amir Muhammed, David Mack, Suge Knight and the LAPD was a schizophrenic known as "Psycho Mike" who later confessed to hearsay and memory lapses and falsely identifying Amir Muhammed, a figure in the Poole-Sullivan theory.[19] John Cook of Brill's Content noted that Philips' article "demolished" [20] the Poole-Sullvan theory of Biggie's murder.

Around the same time as the Sullivan-Poole theory of Tupac's murder (also implicating Knight) came out in 2002, Los Angeles Times investigative reporter Chuck Philips wrote a two-part series titled “Who Killed Tupac Shakur?” resulting in year-long research into the murder of Shakur and events surrounding it based on police affidavits, court documents and interviews.[21][22]

Information gathered by Philips indicated that “the shooting was carried out by a Compton gang called the Southside Crips to avenge the beating of one of its members by Shakur a few hours earlier. Orlando Anderson, the Crip whom Shakur had attacked, fired the fatal shots. Las Vegas police discounted Anderson as a suspect after questioning him once briefly. He was later killed in a what police said was an unrelated gang shooting”.[21] The article implicated East Coast music figures, including Christopher "Biggie Smalls" Wallace, Shakur's nemesis at the time, alleging that he paid for the gun.[21] Before their own deaths, Smalls and his family and Anderson denied any role in Shakur's murder. Biggie's family[23] produced documents purporting to show that the rapper was in New York and New Jersey at the time. The New York Times called the documents inconclusive stating:

   The pages purport to be three computer printouts from Daddy's House, indicating that Wallace was in the studio recording a song called Nasty Boy on the afternoon Shakur was shot. They indicate that Wallace wrote half the session, was In and out/sat around and laid down a ref, shorthand for a reference vocal, the equivalent of a first take. But nothing indicates when the documents were created. And Louis Alfred, the recording engineer listed on the sheets, said in an interview that he remembered recording the song with Wallace in a late-night session, not during the day. He could not recall the date of the session but said it was likely not the night Shakur was shot. We would have heard about it, Mr. Alfred said."[24]

Mark Duvoisin, assistant manager of the LA Times, wrote that Chuck Philips account had withstood all attacks to its credibility including Sullivan's and remained "the definitive account of the Shakur slaying"[25]

In Tupac Shakur: Before I Wake, a documentary by Tupac Shakur's bodyguard, he and writer Cathy Scott said that Knight would not have placed himself in the path of bullets he knew were coming, in line with LAPD documents reviewed in Philips' LA Times 2002 series. On her website Archived Letters Scott responds to a reader of her book stating that she felt there was never evidence to link Knight to Tupac's murder.

A 2006 task force probe into Biggie Smalls' murder, which included LAPD Detective Greg Kading, led back to the murder of Shakur and corroborated Chuck Philips findings. In his 2011 self-published book, Murder Rap,[26] Kading wrote about speaking with Duane "Keefe D" Davis, a member of the "Crips" street gang, who gave a confession saying he rode in the car that was involved in the Las Vegas shooting of Shakur.[15][27] As Chuck Philips noted in his earlier LA Times series, the Crips claimed they had been offered a million dollars by associates of Bad Boy records to kill Shakur. Kading, who named Sean Combs as having been involved in the conspiracy, also wrote that a bounty was offered for Suge Knight's murder.[15]

According to Kading's book, while in Las Vegas, Davis and fellow Crips members crossed paths with a BMW carrying Knight and Shakur.[21] The fatal shots were fired by Orlando "Baby Lane" Anderson, who sat on the side of the car closest to BMW.

==The Tupac Shakur shooting theory section should be deleted ==
The section has virtually NO REFERENCES to "Suge Knight". The section was deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.89.36.16 (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Get a better main picture

Do not use a mug shot for the main picture of an encyclopedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.26.191.233 (talk) 18:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC) That default picture is not him it is Rick Ross —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.63.84.226 (talk) 21:59, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

article issues

The tag refers to the following issues: The article may need more references, and general cleanup and/or a complete rewrite may be in order. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Suge Knight article or Deth Row Records Article

Just reviewing the page and it seems like this is a more to do with death row records as oppossed to the history of Suge Knight the man. As far as I see it, many of the heddings should be condensed down to a single header reffering to his dealing with death row. Example, "addition of Tupac" is not something that happened to SUge Knight Personally rather for Death Row records. I would make changes, but I know nothing about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.1.99 (talk) 12:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Blac Ball Records lawsuit

A while ago Blac Ball Records sued Suge, cause he was trying to make a label using the same name. I know it happen, but can someone find the source and add it in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.54.65 (talk) 19:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

First prison term

Suge Knight could not have been sent to prison for a parole violation unless he had already been in prison. Probation and parole are two different things. I have corrected this in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.220.29 (talk) 18:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

And the original probation stems from what? DAVilla (talk) 05:06, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit the Summary

He is not arrested for killing tupac, its like saying that justin bieber shot eminem, it is a rumor! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.73.154.115 (talk) 03:10, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Vanilla Ice incident?

Why is there no mention of the alleged incident in which Suge and his entourage broke into Vanilla Ice's hotel room, drew guns on his security guards and then held Ice over the balcony until he agreed to sign away the rights to some of his songs that were disputed by Death Row? That's pretty much the only thing Suge is known for anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.111.127.113 (talk) 22:55, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Snoop

It is mentioned in the article Snoop Dogg believes Knight to be involved in the Tupac murder, but no cite is provided. I am tagging it for verification.--Chimino (talk) 03:17, 31 July 2011 (UTC) This says he told police that http://www.rapcentral.co.uk/snoopBeefs.html

I agree and think it should be taken out. Scholarlyarticles (talk) 23:40, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Club 662

The corresponding letters to 662 did not stand for "money over bitches" as the article states. It stood for "members of Bloods". This is discussed in various media which discuss the 2pac murder. If someone could help me out with a cite so I can change the article, it would be appreciated. I can not find the article where I read this. Joefromrandb (talk) 21:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Shooting

According to sources like this, Knight was shot twice in what was intended to be a shooting of Chris Brown. However, it'll be slightly difficult finding valid sources for this. WikiWinters (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2014 (UTC)