Talk:Stop Messin' Round/GA1

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Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 07:12, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for taking this on. I'll be working on it a bit at a time. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
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Infobox and lead[edit]

  • Don't note UK and US after the labels but keep them in the infobox
  • Mention the song being by Fleetwood Mac before you mention the writer
  • Identify them as a British-American rock band
  • First American member joined in 1971, three years later. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It is an" → "The song is an"
  • Sure twelve shouldn't be 12?
  • "The song was first" → ""Stop Messin' Round" was first"
  • Maybe move the info about the initial release to the first para?
  • Trying to approach on the song, rather than the release. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The song is included" → "The song has been included"
  • "and Aerosmith have" → "and Aerosmith, have"
  • Mention reception somewhere here, including what most critics commented on
  • Remove ref 1 as that is sourced in the body

Lyrics[edit]

  • "Fleetwood Mac's "Stop Messin' Round" is credited" → ""Stop Messin' Round" is credited"
  • "often used by the group's manager" → "often used by Fleetwood Mac's manager"
  • Reworded with Ghmyrtle's clarification. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Only two 12-bar verses" → "Only two of the song's 12-bar verses"

Recording and musical style[edit]

  • Are you sure this shouldn't be above lyrics section?
  • There's more background info in Lyrics, so it works better chronologically. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "(and future McVie wife" → "(also future McVie wife"
  • "Perfect and saxophone players" → "Perfect, and saxophone players"
  • "album.[6]" → "album in 1968.[6]"
  • "more typical of live performances" → "more typical of live performances for the song"
  • This setup was used for the whole album. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "public address or PA system" → "public address system (PA system)"
  • "sees it as attempt" → "sees it as an attempt"
  • Why is the word American included?
  • Removed. Chicago and Memphis are already included. (At the time, some thought that studios in the UK couldn't get the bluesier or R&B sound). —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "such as B.B. King (to whom he was often compared)" → "such as B.B. King, to whom he was often compared"

Reception[edit]

  • Add overview of the recepton (positive/mixed/negative etc.)
  • ""Mr. Wonderful's one gem"" → ""Mr. Wonderful's one gem""

Renditions[edit]

  • "best-known songs" → "most well-known songs" more encyclopedic
  • "of the song, that appears" → "of the song, which appears"
  • "In a 1996 review in" → "In a 1996 review for"
  • "what we do best."" → "what we do best"."
  • "played the song at" → "played the song during"

Footnotes[edit]

    • WP:NOTBROKEN includes "There is usually nothing wrong with linking to redirects to articles. Some editors are tempted, upon finding a link to a redirect page, to bypass the redirect and point the link directly at the target page. However, changing to a piped link is beneficial only in a few cases. Piping links solely to avoid redirects is generally a time-wasting exercise that can actually be detrimental. It is almost never helpful to replace [[redirect]] with [[target|redirect]]." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Target "44 Blues" to "Forty-Four"
    As above. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Target "Stop Breakin' Down Blues" to "Stop Breaking Down"
  • "Peter Green's response" → "Green's response"

References[edit]

    • Template:Cite web#Parameters includes: "Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.) ... Not normally used for periodicals. Omit where the publisher's name is substantially the same as the name of the work." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refs 3, 4, 18, 21, 22, 25, 28 and 33 should cite AllMusic as the publisher
  • Refs 15, 23, 24 and 31 shouldn't use at
  • It's automatically added when using Template:AllMusic (also removes italics): "The template can be used for any link to AllMusic's website, including the 'External links' section or when citing it as a source." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC) I did some more checking and remember problems using the AllMusic template, so I'll change all these to the regular citeweb. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changed so all consistently use the same cite web format. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 30 should cite Guitar World as the website not Guitarworld.com
  • In the case of Guitar World, Variety, Billboard, etc., the websites are different than their print magazines. I'll look into this. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • This explains use of work/website and publisher. Generally, 1) whatever the webpage is titled should be used (the ".com" is usually not part of it); 2) publisher= is not needed if work/website name is substantially the same or is well-known. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 36 should cite Variety not Variety.com
  • Ref 37 should cite PopMatters not Popmatters.com

Final comments and verdict[edit]

 On hold until the changes are done and maybe include an image of the writer? --Kyle Peake (talk) 13:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added with tie-in to guitar. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Add alt text
  • I think this takes care of it. Thanks for adding the archive links. Let me know if there's anything else. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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