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Issues[edit]

The 1981 "Military Small Arms of the 20th Century" reference describes the original Sterling Assault Rifle, which was bought and redesigned by Chartered Industries of Singapore as the SAR-80. It is not the Sterling SAR-87. In fact, the SAR-87 never appears in later editions of the book. The SAR-87 does appear in "Jane's Infantry Weapons" starting in the 1987 edition and ending with the 1989 edition. After this, British Aerospace (a private firm) had bought out Sterling and closed it. This was more about eliminating competition for Royal Ordnance, also owned by BAe.

The photo used by Jane's was never more than an artist's rendition. The development of the SAR-87 seems to be so insignificant that it wasn't even included in the book "The Guns of Dagenham," which was co-authored by one of Sterling's last directors. In contrast, the book noted rarities such as the Sterling revolver. It seems inappropriate to discuss the rifle's virtues when it was essentially unsold and untested. --D.E. Watters (talk) 17:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to agree. Praising the rifle with less than 100 built and no known users seems rather pointless. Koalorka (talk) 20:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Given the other inaccuracies of the article, I'm disinclined to even believe the claim for the number of rifles built. Oh, I'm certain that it was less than 100, but without a solid citation, I'm more inclined to believe the number was closer to 1 than it was 100. --D.E. Watters (talk) 20:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be a work of complete fiction from the fevered mind of Slim/Browno/etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.84.6.139 (talk) 19:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]