Talk:Stacy Offner

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Contested deletion[edit]

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the person has accomplished important firsts for women and lesbians. I will try to get more primary sources on her life. — Dante8 (talk) 19:38, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tend to agree with you. It has the makings of an interesting article. Whoever left the 'notability?' box on the article hasn't explained their problems with it, so I'll remove the box. However, the citations/references are a mess, I hope this is only because you don't know how to format citations (and not because you 'found something on the internet' and copypasted the URL). I've formatted the book (on Google books) as an example of better practise (presumably you've read the book?). Sionk (talk) 01:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Footnotes 1 and 9[edit]

First, I do think that this entry warrants inclusion for the same reasons outlined by Dante8.

Second, regarding footnotes 19 and 20 - this is tricky. Footnote 19 takes the reader to a text in which the rabbi herself makes the claim that she was fired from her position shortly after coming out to the board about her sexuality. Wikipedia: identifying reliable sources addresses some of the challenges of this source: in short, the text offers Rabbi Offner's version of the events that led to her dismissal. A third-party perspective would lend more credible credence to this assertion.

It is tricky because, at the very least, there seems to be a correlation between her addressing her sexuality and her dismissal, but to assert a direct cause-and-effect relationship would require a better source than just the rabbi's words, wouldn't it?

I'm not sure why footnote 20 is connected to this sentence. It's great information about the theological roots of Shir Tikvah's formation, but that's not what this sentence is addressing, is it? Crumbit (talk) 21:16, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I read through the footnotes re: the issues I raise above, and I stand corrected: footnote 9 works just fine as a reliable source. Crumbit (talk) 23:11, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]