Talk:Sooner or Later (Madonna song)/GA1

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Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 04:30, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


I love the song, so I thought I'd review the GAN.

  • ""Sooner or Later" was created" - created seems weird for a song. Perhaps - "composed"?
  • "A 1930s jazz ballad" - this is pretty ambiguous. Do you mean Jazz Age?
  • "piano, drum sounds, double bass and horns" - "drum sounds"? Also, is the lack of comma after "bass" intentional?
  • "Oscar for Best Original Song" - link please
  • "Madonna told Premiere magazine that initially she had waited for Beatty to call her for the film. But when he did not, the singer decided to involve herself voluntarily." - is this stolen from somewhere, or is it your own writing? I don't write this to be rude, and I apologize as I have never worked with you before, but sentences should not begin with "But" in an encyclopedia article, pardon me being pedantic about this. Same thing later with "But he kept on encouraging the singer"
    • Hi, its definitely mine and sometimes I do make mistakes. So bear with me. —IB [ Poke ] 09:54, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • No problem! Sometimes I'm a bit brash of a GA reviewer, and I apologize for that. When reviewing whether something is good or not, sometimes I tend to get nitpicky, but I am only being critical to hope for the best result in the end. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:07, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "According to J. Randy Taraborrelli, author of Madonna: An Intimate Biography, by the 1980s record labels started to release albums which were closely associated with a film, thereby gain double promotion. " - this seems a bit much. You don't have to do the first part if you attribute it to a source. Again, I'm not sure if you're using this writing from someone else or you decided to write it this way. "Which" here should be "that". And the last "gain" should be "gaining".
    • I have corrected this now I believe? —IB [ Poke ] 12:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "After the shooting for Dick Tracy was over" - when?
    • Added citation for the May 1989 shooting ending. —IB [ Poke ] 12:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • " the harmonic and melodic styles were more "complex" than the songs which Madonna was accustomed to," - is this referring to Sondheim's three songs, or just this one in particular? Also, the grammar is weird at the end
    • Please check if its fine? If not do you have any suggestion to better it? —IB [ Poke ] 12:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "set in the days of the Untouchables law enforcement" - very weirdly written
  • "Another positive review came from Mark Coleman from Rolling Stone, who said Madonna's "breathy emotionality" fit "Sooner or Later" "like a glove", saying she did not coo the line "I always get my man"; for him, she "spits it out like fire, bringing fresh conviction to a somewhat generic line"" - that's a bit too much quoting IMO. Either do it all, or just a portion of it. Also, "coo"?
    • I have rephrased this to my best understanding. —IB [ Poke ] 12:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Did the song chart on any charts? Maybe jazz charts?
    • Not at all, mind you, this was before the digital age, when it was not available for single purchase except the album, and Billboard Jazz charts had not been introduced. —IB [ Poke ] 12:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Conjuring the atmosphere of a smoky nightclub" - is this a quote? It's a bit lyrical and creative to be in a Wikipedia article
    • Please check if its fine? If not do you have any suggestion to better it? —IB [ Poke ] 12:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All in all a good article, but I'm worried about the copyvio concerns, and some more flowery wording. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:30, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Hurricanehink: thanks for taking time to review the article. I will go through your review points and act accordingly. Thanks again :) —IB [ Poke ] 12:05, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Shit I completely forgot about this :O. I'm starting right away and addressing all the points today. —IB [ Poke ] 20:12, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, no prob. Just lemme know when you finish taking care of these :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:07, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricanehink: I appreciate your critical comments and helping me in betterment of the article. I couldn't ask for a better review possibly :) —IB [ Poke ] 12:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great! Happy to pass now. Thanks :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:11, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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