Talk:Smalltime

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Did you know... that Russell Shorto's mobster grandfather was described by one reviewer as the "holy trinity of a reprobate—a drunk, a philanderer, and a cheat" in the 2021 family memoir Smalltime?

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 10:29, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Russell Shorto's mobster grandfather was described by one reviewer as the "holy trinity of a reprobate—a drunk, a philanderer, and a cheat" in the 2021 family memoir Smalltime? Source: City Journal
- ALT1: ... that two reviewers described Russell Shorto's 2021 family memoir Smalltime as fresh, despite the mafia media space already crowded by other memoirs according to one reviewer? Source: WSJ, Booklist
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Juana Summers

Created by Therapyisgood (talk). Self-nominated at 16:50, 1 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Smalltime; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@Therapyisgood: QPQ is done, article is good except there is a missing citation at the end of the 'Overview' section which needs to be addressed. Hook matches source and article. Article is also new/long enough and Earwig's tool finds no copyright violations, no paraphrasing is apparant. Also should note that the image in the article is believed to be fair use, but is not used in the DYK so it should be fine.
- @Panamitsu: I was confused on this too but apparently the overview/plot summary doesn't need citing, see the FA Archaeology, Anthropology, and Interstellar Communication for instance. Additionally I said at WT that I was a bit concerned the original hook was airing dirty laundry. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:55, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Therapyisgood: Yeah that does look to be true at MOS:PLOTCITE. I'm not 100% sure about your worries about airing dirty laundry as the book is centred around the grandfather and has been released to the public, it's not like it's some secret information. I'm going to approve. —Panamitsu (talk) 07:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Content duplication[edit]

I guess that if one were to remove the duplicated content in this article, it would drop to 60% of its current size. Seems like a major task to re-write it Sanpitch (talk) 23:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]