Talk:Skyscraper (song)/GA1

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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 00:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]


I will review this article. Expect comments within a few days. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, indeed. Nintendo¡oui?? 10:14, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure, but I unfortunately have to fail this. There are multiple completely unsourced sections, which is by itself an automatic fail for GAN's. Here is a detailed list of the problems:
Lead
  • Remove the "Skyscraper" DAB page per WP:NAMB; this article doesn't have an ambiguous title, and there are no other songs with the title "Skyscraper"
  • Replace "recording artist" with "singer"; it's more concise and recognizable
  • "staying strong and believing in yourself" should be in quotation marks or changed to "believing in oneself" to avoid POV issues
  • "lonely" in "a lonely piano" doesn't seem very encyclopedic
  • I don't think the number of weeks spent on the Billboard Hot 100 is necessary
  • No need to mention "This Is Me"; just say this was her first solo entry to teach the top 10 on the Hot 100
  • The music video needs to be mentioned
  • Per WP:LEADCITE, information in the lead doesn't need to be cited unless controversial when already covered in article body
  • "176,000 paid digital downloads" should just be "176,000 digital copies"
  • "The song has sold over 1.5 million digital downloads"..... I think "copies" is a better term than "downloads"
  • The New Zealand and UK certifications should be included
  • "United States" from "Internationally, the song reached the top 20 in Canada, New Zealand, and the United States" is redundant since the US peak was already mentioned. Finland and Ireland would be good to add since it also reached the top 20 there.
  • More live performances should be mentioned
Background
  • Per WP:OVERCITE, a reference doesn't need to be used more than once in a row within a paragraph, so ref#6 (Seventeen) and ref#7 (VH1) only need to be used right after "Kerli recorded a demo version of the song before Gad was offered the song to Lovato." for this section
Recording
  • ’ from the boxed quote should be ' per MOS:QUOTEMARKS
  • "damaged" from "her voice was damaged from purging" sounds POV
  • WP:OVERCITE issues in the second paragraph; just use ref#6 at the end of "everything she's been through the past year is beyond inspiring", and just use ref#7 at the end of "they were lovely so they kept them".
Release
  • I don't think the original release plans for July 14, 2011 are needed
  • iTunes charts shouldn't be included per WP:BADCHARTS
  • "Lovato recorded a Spanish version of the track, named "Rascacielo". It was released on the Mexican iTunes store on August 16, 2011" → "Lovato recorded a Spanish version of the track titled "Rascacielo", which was released onto iTunes on August 16, 2011"
  • ref#21 (Digital Spy) only needs to be used after "Lovato called Sparks' take 'beautiful'" per WP:OVERCITE
Composition
  • "powerful vocals" is POV
  • see above note in lead about "lonely piano"
  • ref#15 (Billboard) only needs to be used at the end of "breathy backing vocals" per WP:OVERCITE
  • see above note in lead about "staying strong and believing in yourself"
  • "The song deals with the difficulties when Lovato had been through the past year" reads awkwardly
Reception
Critical reception
  • This needs a substantial expansion; three reviews isn't much for one of Demi's best known songs
  • A big claim like "The song has received acclaim from music critics" needs to be referenced
Chart performance
  • This is currently incomplete; all nations included in the "charts" section should be included. The certifications should also be listed here.
  • See above note in lead regarding "This Is Me".
Music video
Background
  • "E! News" shouldn't be italicized
  • More WP:OVERCITE with ref#7; just use it after "it needed to be for the song" and "that was needed for the song"
  • The attributed source (ref#7) doesn't give any name for the desert
Synopsis
  • Even though citations are generally not needed for plot sections, is there a particular reason why "In the second chorus, Lovato begins to find more strength, with one shot showing her standing inside a photograph frame. In the bridge, the glass box with the heart inside is hit, causing the surface to break. Other scenes of the black fabric and Lovato walking over the glass afterwards. As the song fades, the last scene of Lovato's face as the video ends" has no attributed references while the rest of this subsection does?
Official video and reception
  • I'd rename this "Release and reception"
  • Only first premiere needs to be included
  • The given ref (MTV) doesn't mention a specific date for release
  • No need to mention Ryan Seacrest interview
  • Per WP:OVERCITE, ref#38 only needs to be used after "the song provides all the pyrotechnics necessary"
  • It wouldn't hurt to add more reviews
Live performances
Covers, talent performance and usage in media
  • Including Jordin Sparks here is repetitive since she was already mentioned in "release" section
  • YouTube covers tend not to be notable enough for inclusion if no reliably secondary sources exist, so this should be removed unless a good non-YouTube source is available
Awards and nominations
  • This section is entirely unreferenced. I'd remove "Hollywoodlife Awards" since Hollywood Life is an unreliable gossip site, and awards are not notable when from unreliable sources/organizations without Wikipedia articles.
Track listing
  • "Skyscraper - Single Digital download" needs to be sourced
  • "Personnel" is unsourced and should be its own section
Charts and certifications
  • Remove the Ukraine FDR chart per WP:BADCHARTS
Release history
  • The UK releases need references
Sam Bailey version
Live performances
  • This is entirely unreferenced
Critical reception
  • The quote is too lengthy; please paraphrase it
  • Surely there were reviews from more than just one critic
Track listing
  • This section is entirely unsourced
References
  • Some dead links need to be fixed
  • Per MOS:DATE, all publish dates and accessdates should be in DMY (day-month-year) format or MDY (month-day-year) format per MOS:DATE. Be consistent in using one form of the other.
  • Digital Spy shouldn't be italicized
  • AOL isn't really reliable, and the links used don't work anyway
  • When listing a publisher, just use one overall owning company (i.e. just Viacom for MTV and VH1 refs, just NBCUniversal for E! refs)
  • "Officialcharts.com" should read Official Charts Company
  • iTunes Store shouldn't be italicized, and no need to include nations within refs
  • "EntertainmentWise" isn't reliable
  • Idolator (website) shouldn't be italicized, and "Buzz Media" should link to SpinMedia
  • Don't italicize HitFix
  • The first E! ref isn't working
  • What makes "Cambio" reliable?
  • Something seems to be wrong with the RyanSeacrest.com ref, which should read [[On the air
Overall
  • Well-written?
  • Prose quality: Requires a good copyedit
  • Manual of Style compliance: Needs work
  • Verifiable?
  • Reference layout: Lots of issues
  • Reliable sources: Some need replacing
  • No original research: Not up to par, especially with dead links and unsourced sections
  • Broad in coverage?
  • Major aspects: Needs expansion in some areas
  • Focused: Not quite
  • Neutral?: Almost
  • Stable?: Looks good
  • Illustrated, if possible, by images?
  • Pass or Fail?: I'm very sorry, but this nomination unfortunately was premature due to the above concerns. As mentioned, it is being failed. Too many issues right now. Better luck next time. Snuggums (talk / edits) 05:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]