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Merger proposal

MH-60CZ Multi-Role HelicopterSikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk

Why have two articles? I propose a merge.--Petebutt (talk) 07:33, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Which ones? The article being merged should be clearly stated in the merger proposal. -Fnlayson (talk) 12:31, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
I added the link above to be match the merge tag in the article now. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Survey

This article should not be merged with Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk because all variants on that site have been developed by the Sikorsky helicopter company. It is unique and unprecedented that a private company (Pinnacle) developed a program to purchase U.S. Army helicopters through an online auction and develop a unique aircraft configuration for export. This program is unique to Pinnacle Solutions Inc. and not Sikorsky helicopters. (Highlands47 (talk) 07:56, 17 September 2015 (UTC))

There's not really anything worth merging here. There are no reliable sources in the article that show the project exists, much less is notable. Probably better to send to AFD. The article is written more like a proposal and advertisement, and without verifiable sources, shouldn't be in WP at all. - BilCat (talk) 08:05, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with BillCat, but let us see if the author can discuss the issue properly before nominating for AfD (I have replaced the merge tag).--Petebutt (talk) 10:46, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Merge: This CZ variant is not significant enough for a separate article. It can be covered here like the MH-60 DAP that seems to be similar. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:51, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
  • AfD/Merge: - Overrated variant, and seems odd a "new editor's" first edit(s) is to create an article that's displays Pinnacle Solutions Inc product WP:NOTADVOCATE - FOX 52 (talk) 17:12, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment Firstly, a merge notice has not been placed in the MH-60CZ Multi-Role Helicopter article. Until then, this discussion will not be very effective. Secondly, I can find nothing worth merging - just a marketing spiel that has no place on Wikipedia. I'd suggest it be put up for AfD. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 18:34, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Pete removed the merge tag after adding it there. He's been quite sloppy lately, and made several merge discussions in which he neglects to state what articles are proposed. - BilCat (talk) 18:39, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose nothing to merge as the article should be deleted as I am not convinced that it actually exists, no references or sources and looks like a hoax, google has zero hits except the wikipedia article and one mirror. MilborneOne (talk) 19:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Just tagged it with a proposed deletion - FOX 52 (talk) 23:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I have put discussion notices on the article creator's and the Aircraft WikiProject's talk pages: any further discussion should go on the page linked to in all these notices.— Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:28, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Picture taken of Stealth variant of MH-60 Black Hawk stealth helicopter in Mosul

A Picture was taken of the Stealth variant of the MH-60 Black Hawk helicopter in Mosul. Please someone who is a bit more advanced than me, add it to the section of Special purpose variants in the article :

http://defence-blog.com/news/mysterious-black-hawk-helicopter-spotted-near-mosul-in-iraq.html

We need a reliable source on what the variant is but the main problem is we cant use non-free copyrighted images anyhow. MilborneOne (talk) 10:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

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Accidents

I was surprised to see that there were only two accidents listed. I have added one recent one, although with an aircraft like the Black Hawk it would probably have enough crashes for its own article. Feel free to add more in if you like. --Josephus37 (talk) 07:20, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

The Japanese H-60 variants are covered at Mitsubishi H-60. The UH-60J accident should be covered there instead to be with more relevant content. --Finlayson (talk) 14:13, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
That is not a bad idea. I've created an accident section there and moved the content.----Josephus37 (talk) 01:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I was going to do that after making sure you saw my post first. --Finlayson (talk) 12:23, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

The big Taiwan accident of the 2nd of January 2020 needs to be added. There were several generals killed. Jidanni (talk) 11:06, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

The mobile editor put my comment into the previous section. I give up. Jidanni (talk) 11:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

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Military Operators section -- possible errata

The Afghan Air Force is listed, but the claimed source doesn't seem to support this. However, see this: nvm, Wikipedia won't let me link to the Breitbart article about the US giving the AAF Black Hawks. Thank you Wikipedia for saving us all from Bad Thoughts our minds are too tender to evaluate! Andyvphil (talk) 08:37, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

The cited source (Flight Inter'l World Air Forces 2019) does indeed list the Afghan Air Force as having 8 S-70/UH-60A helicopters in service. A link being dead or not working does not invalidate the source. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:58, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Could someone add this accident to the list?

https://www.wwnytv.com/2023/03/10/fort-drum-remembers-2003-helicopter-crash-that-killed-11-soldiers/ 2601:600:9681:FFA0:357A:2A9F:C04:73A (talk) 02:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)