Talk:Seton Portage

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Seton Portage home, summer 1990


I lived in Seton Portage at the time of the Oka Crisis and witnessed the events I mention in the article with respect to the blockade. Let me know if you have any questions or need more detail.

BTW: This is my former house in Seton Portage. It was right next to the train station. I also have a picture I took of the detroyed railway bridge which I may post when I get the time.

Dtaw2001 20:35, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How many people live there?[edit]

I know of the place but I didn't know there is an actual town there. Does it have the mandatory general store/gas station/liquour store unibuilding required to make it a BC interior "town"?

Yes, but it's not incorporated as a town or village, and never has been. There's at least one motel, a bar-restaurant-store, another restaurant-store, a few small businesses; the gas station is on the nearby Slosh reserve.Skookum1 23:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

London tube[edit]

The article refers to "the names Wapping and Flushing, after the busy London Tube stations of the same name". To my knowledge there has never been a Flushing tube (Wikipedians have extensively documented Closed London Underground stations), and whist the Wapping tube station does exist, it's a quiet one, and would never have been an example of a rush of people. Furthermore, it opened in 1869, which may be too late for the period in the article. Paulbrock 01:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed a conundrum, as the rush when there was so much traffic was definitely in 1858, and petered out by '61......interesting. Could there have been a Flushing rail station, non-tube, ditto with Wapping?Skookum1 (talk) 18:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know about Flushing, but Wapping hasn't had a busy rail station either. Busy docks perhaps? Paulbrock (talk) 18:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That would have to be it; my source for this is someone immediately from the Portage/D'Arcy and also Fraser Lake, i.e. a woods person, probably never been to London, working on reportage. Docks would make more sense; both beaches were a flurry of boatbuilding and onloading/offloading just like you'd find at dockside....especially the way docks were in those days (as opposed to the container-terminal tidiness today...). The point of the names is how busy these beaches were...and, one expects, how many bona fide Londoners there were among the crowds...Skookum1 (talk) 18:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I just had a look at hte Flushing disambiguation page and it's clear taht wherever taht stock story from the Portage came from, it lost something in translation. I thought, well, maybe Flushing NY, but in the 1850s it was nowhere; these names even appear on old maps, so there's a reason for it, whoc knows what really, unless another source turns up (and stuff about the ara crops in histories of other areas that I'vge never seen in the locally-focussed ones...)....this is a well-established myth, I'll reword it to say that, and ponder the Flushing association. Could it be that Flushing, Cornwall was a fashionable watering-hole and Wapping was where you caught the train to it? Just guessing? Lond, 1850s...what else could be the connection? It's supposed to be a London association...somewhere I've got both Edwards and Harris on TIF scans, I'll find the relevant pages and quote them here.....Skookum1 (talk) 04:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good guess....Wapping has never had 'National Rail' services (going outside of London), I'd say best guess it used to be a busy part of the Port of London. Flushing, Cornwall would be about 5 hours by train, even now(!) so it would have to be a VERY fashionable watering-hole ;-). Paulbrock (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pronunciation[edit]

I think I explained this in the article, but "portage" rhymes with "porridge". Not sure how to render that to IPA but maybe a soundfile might help; especially because Seton is kinda pronounced Seet'n, even See'7'n (7=glottal stop). If I make a soundfile will someone else make the IPA?Skookum1 (talk) 18:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seton Lake Tramway[edit]

No mention of the Seton Lake Tramway in this article. Why? Peter Horn User talk 04:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it in there? Thought it was - doesn't it say something about Portage Road (the main drag today) being the same roadgrade as the mule-drawn, wooden-railed railway in question). Its most common name is Dozier's Way, after its proprietor (who owned the license, don't know what its incorporation was named, if any - there was no Companies Act yet in 1858-69); I've never seen "Seton Lake Tramway" used in any local or period source; where does that term come from, with caps and all? This is an article I just haven't gotten around to expanding much, my copies of Edwards and harris (two main local histories) are on hard drives in storage (I have them digitized).Skookum1 (talk) 05:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

merge discussion[edit]

re Seton Portage railway station I see no reason at all for that to be a separate article; the station is NN an the article is UNDUE, same as with a similar situation re Lillooet railway station.Skookum1 (talk) 09:08, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]