Talk:Sasho Cirovski

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In sports articles, UM means UMCP unless otherwise specified, as in UMES or UMBC. The disambig. page supports this, as follows:

University of Maryland without the location qualifier in the context of National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) refers to University of Maryland, College Park.

I've worked with the Ath. Dept. for 20 years, and while the school as a whole is certainly now referred to as UMCP, the athletic teams still go ... virtually always ... by UM. Sfahey 03:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, and just wanted to use one standard in the article for consistency. I have changed the UWM reference to use the same standard, as their athletic department does the exact same thing, using only "Milwaukee" or the school's abreviation "UWM" to refer to all athletics teams, virtually always. Cheers! CollegeSportsGuy 05:42, 29 July 2006

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Nah. "University of Maryland," like "UCLA" or "North Carolina-Charlotte" is the nationally recognized name for the school on the sports pages and in national tournaments. In a "universal" encyclopedia, such is the way they should be referred to in the sports area ... and in these terms, the Milwaukee Panthers are "Univ. of Wisconsin-Milwaukee." At least we're not talking about I.U.P.U.I. Sfahey 02:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I beg to differ. "North Carolina-Charlotte" is not the nationally recognized name for the school on sports-related pages, as you say. It is, in fact, "Charlotte". I can point you to dozens upon dozens of articles on WP to prove this.

Why are they referred to as Charlotte? Because that is their OFFICIAL athletics brand name. Milwaukee is in the same situation, though not for as long of a time, and that is the likely reason for more media outlets not using the correct reference, instead using literally over a dozen different variations of part of the INSTITUTION'S name ("Wisconsin-Milwaukee"), such as Wisc.-Milwaukee, Wisc.-Milw., WI-Milwaukee, Wisonsin-Mil., Wisconsin-Milw., Wis.-Mil., Wis.-Milwaukee, Wisc.-Milwaukee, UW-Milw., etc. etc. etc.

Since no encyclopedia should base its own references off of how many times the sports media "butchers" an official name, it's obvious NCAA institution's official athletics brands should continue to be respected on the WP. (Charlotte, Chattanooga, UAB, UIC, etc.)

I think the NCAA, or Wikipedia itself, would be the appropriate determinant of which name should be used to refer to a given school. To wit, I checked the Wiki-article on the NCAA, and linked to the conferences for both UW-Milwaukee and UNC-Charlotte. Both conference articles list these schools by their traditional names, as do the official web pages for the athletic depts. for the two schools. Sfahey 02:58, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hope you found my compromise satisfactory. --Orange Mike 23:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]