Talk:Sanaullah Haq

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Reads like a news article.[edit]

In my opinion this article (as written) reads like more of a candidate for WikiNews than Wikipedia. --Kevjonesin (talk) 16:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you are an editor, and the article is open for improvement. Faizan -Let's talk! 07:20, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Was his crime notable, such as participation in a terrorist act? Did his case become a media circus? Had he been notable for something before being convicted and sentenced? Death of a prisoner at the hands of other prisoners seems banal enough to not merit a Wikipedia page. Heck, we often delete pages on executed offenders. For now, delete. Pbrower2a (talk) 04:35, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are two sides to that as usual: accidental border crossing and terrorist activity in IaK. Some of the details have been added, including bomb blasts in Jammu. AND considering the strong reaction and 'media circus', this is simply not a single event of inmate death. Samar Talk 09:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with Sarabjit Singh[edit]

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Per ONEEVENT & WP:BIO1E Darkness Shines (talk) 09:24, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of merger proposals should take place at the host article's talk page, i.e. at Talk:Sarabjit Singh. You see, if this article gets merged, this article will redirect there and it's talk page can thus be deleted. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose. It will be undue to the Sarabjit Singh article to include stuff about the death of a man he didn't have any relation to (and which death also happened after he himself was dead). I support your other suggestion: to make the Sanaullah Haq article into an event article on his death rather than a biography, as such I support a rename of the article (rather than starting a new). Regards, Iselilja (talk) 09:47, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Merging will result in significant removal of relevant and sourced content as it will allow only the content related to Sarabjit case in that article. The incident may have occurred following Sarabjit's case, however the past history and aftermath of this case is not related to Sarabjit incidence. I understand the argument about significance of event vs significance of individual and will support a suitable renaming of this article if proposed. Samar Talk 10:54, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:LASTING your argument is flawed. Given the sources in the article infer this killing was a result of the killing of Sarabjit Singh (with the target article saying same) then this article should either be a redirect or deleted. Failing a merger I shall be nominating for for deletion on these grounds. Darkness Shines (talk) 11:04, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:LASTING Events are often considered to be notable if they act as a precedent or catalyst for something else. My argument is that this event became notable on its own considering the aftermath; the murder itself became the catalyst for the reactions. So yes, Sarabjit murder probably resulted in Sanaullah murder which resulted in other issues like travel advisory, security concerns, protests etc. In case of a re-nom, my stance will stay the same. The aftermath and background parts are purposely being ignored to show the case is only linked with 'Sarabjit'. Anyways, let the editors give their opinion, this is not a debate or dispute. Samar Talk 12:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also per WP:INDEPTH "Media sources sometimes report on events because of their similarity (or contrast, or comparison) to another widely reported incident. Editors should not rely on such sources to afford notability to the new event, since the main purpose of such articles is to highlight either the old event or such types of events generally." which is obviously the case here. Darkness Shines (talk) 11:08, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose. Why? Is Sarabjit Singh more notable? Will Sanaullah Haq be punished for being a Pakistani prisoner? The article is itself notable, and should be kept here. Nothing to with Sarabjit. Faizan 11:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How can you say it has nothing to do with Singh when the sources in this article say otherwise? Who was Sanaullah, the latest Indian victim in tit-for-tat killings Haq, who was serving a life sentence in India, became a victim of vengeance a day after a convicted Indian spy, Sarabjit Singh, was attacked in a similar fashion at Kot Lakhpat Jail in Lahore. Darkness Shines (talk) 12:07, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Obvious oppose - pointless proposal, unless you want the Sarabjit Singh article to be converted into an article about Sanaullah. Mar4d (talk) 14:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a subsection there about him, which according to policy is all that is needed. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:16, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 – Discussion of merger proposals should take place at the host article's talk page --Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 15:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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