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Middlesbrough Estate or Estates, and spelling[edit]

Hi. There's some lack of clarity here and in Saltburn Cliff Lift about whether the entity involved is called Middlesbrough Estate or Middlesbrough Estates. Can anyone nail this please? Also, I altered the spelling from Middlesborough Estate(s) to Middlesbrough Estate(s) in a couple of places. Since this change is generally correct I hope it is here too, but if you know otherwise, please yell, and produce the evidence! Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 15:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, and a nice solve I hope! Not being a native of said area (been a couple of times, nice views and architecture), I came at this from developing the article on George Croydon Marks, and noticed the two rather large gaps we had; so hence the investigation/creation. This pdf from Redcar & Cleveland councils archive confirms it as "the owners of Middlesborough estate" (page 39, section 4.15). It also highlights how awful our current Saltburn article is, and what a great source of detail this conservation area plan would be. I looked around Wikipedia and Google for sources for Middlesborough estate over the weekend, but could find much - a books job I guess, unless you know better? Hope this helps, happy to discuss further. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and thanks for the great reply. I *am* a native of that area but have not lived there for many years. I always used to love Saltburn in particular but, no, I certainly don't know better! Thanks for the link to that excellent and interesting document and given that it's very clear, I think we should probably go with "Middlesbrough Estate" unless/until any evidence emerges otherwise. If you don't mind I think I will make those changes to make it consistent and we can go on from there. I wish I had more to offer these articles but I think that's it for now - though I will enjoy having a longer look at the PDF when time permits! Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 09:23, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]