Talk:Saint David's Day

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Welsh costumes?[edit]

"The younger girls that I love usually wear their Welsh costumes to school. This costume consists of a long woollen skirt, white blouse, woollen shawl and, of course, a Welsh hat." Really? I've been in Wales plenty of times on St David's day & have never seen this. Markb 09:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It happens -- I dressed up for St David's Day at primary school. Here's a Google picture search. Gareth 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I bet you looked real cute in your long woollen skirt, white blouse, woollen shawl and Welsh hat, Gareth! Markb 13:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it put me off cross-dressing for life... ;-) Seriously, boys used to wear traditional farmers' outfits. Which was bad enough! Gareth 22:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it really happens, I know, 'cause I was there.--78.147.147.45 (talk) 13:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
'Traditional farmers outfits' - is that a pinstripe suit worn to visit the bank to pay in the £millions in CAP subsidies? Markb 12:54, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The tradition of boys dressing up varies from region to region, I think. When I was in school in the South Wales Valleys (well, Monmouthshire, but close enough) it was tradition for boys to dress up as Welsh coal miners. Today boys often just wear red clothes or perhaps the Wales rugby jersey. Benbristol, 12:34, 1st March 2007 (UTC)

Origins of wearing of leeks[edit]

I know Shakespeare is sometimes of dubious accuracy for factual history, but I remember this reference. 

FLUELLEN.
Your grandfather of famous memory, an't please pick your
NOSE.[[[[Link title]]]]'''Bold text''', and your great-uncle Edward the Plack Prince of 
Wales, as I have read in the chronicles, fought a most prave 
pattle here in France.
ASAJSNAJSNAJSNASJNAJSNA
KING HENRY.
They did, Fluellen.

FLUELLEN.
Your Majesty says very true.  If your Majesties is rememb'red of
it, the Welshmen did good service in garden where leeks did grow,
wearing leeks in their Monmouth caps; which, your Majesty know, 
to this hour is an honourable badge of the service; and I do
believe your Majesty takes no scorn to wear the leek upon Saint
Tavy's day.

KING HENRY.
I wear it for a memorable honour;
For I am Welsh, you know, good countryman.
— Henry V, Act 4, Scene vii [1]

I believe the reference is to the Battle of Crécy. Perhaps someone more knowledgable for incorporate the history into the article text. — Eoghanacht talk 17:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the references on this page it looks clear that Fluellen was referencing Dafydd ap Llewelyn, and the battle refered to is Agincourt. EdwardLane (talk) 15:47, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rumour...[edit]

I have removed the reference to a rumour: "It is also rumoured that many over 65's begin to eat grass and have a wool like hair for the day!"

Such ridiculing nonsense has no place here. Sorry if I appear a killjoy.EWoc 12:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested merge[edit]

There's already an article Saint David - I think that the biography (apart from material directly related to the date of his death) would be better integrated there and linked. Pseudomonas(talk) 13:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agree the merger. This article is about Saint David's Day, not specifically about Saint David, therefore the biography should go onto that article, with a link/paragraph in this article Seth Whales (talk) 13:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious[edit]

The Welsh flag is always flown in honour of St. David.

This seems to be an awkward statement, and it's not entirely clear what it's supposed to say. The flag comes out on 1 March? Its display at any time is to honour St. David? (As an atheist, I object to such an idea) Do you mean the Flag of Saint David? My experience is that at least County Hall, Cardiff, Civic Centre, Swansea, and Tŷ Elwyn, Llanelli fly the Union Flag alongside the Flag of Wales all year round, with the exceptions being that on 1 March the Flag of Saint David flies alongside, and the Royal Standard appearing whenever HM is in town. 81.110.106.169 (talk) 17:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. The Welsh flag is flown all year round, whereas St David's flag (gold cross on a black field) is flown on St David's Day. I agree so much, I bought the company... I mean I've changed that paragraph to "The flag of Saint David often plays a central role in the celebrations, and can be seen flying throughout Wales." --CubBC (talk) 11:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cenhinen Pedr[edit]

Doesn't this just simply mean "Peter's leek" rather than "st. Peter's leek". Small error, but easily fixable. Cennin being Leek, the -en suffix relating to the 's suffix in english and "Pedr" representing "Peter".

The Sant is assumed, I think. Or mutates to Bedr: [2]. A Victorian invention anyway? But why Peter? University of Wales Trinity Saint David gives gylfinog anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:22, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But geiriadur.ac.uk gives an origin at least back to 1632. Appears as cennin Pedr in Jan Janssonius' 1654 Originum Gallicarum Liber and in the 1753 Antiquae Linguae Britannicae Thesaurus by Rev Thomas Richards of Coychurch. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:11, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Petition?[edit]

"A petition in 2007 to make St. David's Day a bank holiday was rejected by the then British Prime Minister, Tony Blair."

Following the link shows an epetition on the Number10 website, however this was not specifically rejected by Tony Blair. Rather the response to the petition was a routine one from the Department for Trade and Industry. I'd therefore suggest that this sentence is misleading and would probably be best reworded or removed. (78.86.152.168 (talk) 19:39, 1 March 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Also the source is marked as dead link but a copy can be found here: https://web.archive.org/web/20070228164145/http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page11078.asp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.227.140 (talk) 08:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Date mismatch[edit]

There is a date mismatch between the first paragraph of the article and the summary in the righthand sidebar. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.16.191 (talk) 00:08, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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March 3?[edit]

Since everybody seems to agree that St. David's Day is 1 March, what does "For centuries, 3 March has been a national festival" mean here? Is it just a typo for 1 March, or is there some missing link to make it meaningful? --Haruo (talk) 02:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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