Talk:Rush discography

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Worldwide Sales Levels For Albums[edit]

How did the author[s] of the Discography section come up with the worldwide sales level figures for nearly all of the albums listed? Just curious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.201.247.39 (talk) 00:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Singles Layout[edit]

First off, excellent work adding all the other singles.

However what I think we need to do is add more detail. I'd like to see the following:-

  • Different Formats (12" with extra tracks?)
  • "B" Sides - Especially otherwise unavailable ones - I've got a 7" copy of "Countdown" (IIRC) with an interview on the "B" Side...
  • Chart Placings in major markets US, Canada, UK
  • Parent Album
  • Other comments - e.g. my UK 7" of Spirit of Radio (note the name) is edited down to under 4 minutes...

Thoughts? Megamanic 08:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the details should be placed on the individual song and album articles in a table detailing the different releases.
  • Format (CD, Vinyl, ect.)
  • Country
  • Catalog Number
  • Parent Album
The chart positions in the various countries could be detailed in another table or list. (Metnever)

Overall Layout[edit]

I asked over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rock_music & was told that the Oasis discography is the model to follow. Have a look, I think it looks great & has just about anything a sane fan could want clearly presented. Now getting all that info could be fun but my vote is to copy the format & leave the stuff we don't know as gaps for others to fill. I'm not going to do it without discussion though. Have a look & see what you think. Megamanic 01:51, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, but I'd like to keep the studio and live albums in one list. (Metnever 16:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC))[reply]
I know what you're saying but if we have the live albums in sequence we need to colour code the rows IMHO. I certainly don't think compilations should be in sequence - it annoys the heck out of me when they are but I'm flexible about the live albums if we can fix the table so it's clear what's studio & what's live. Otherwise what do you think? Megamanic 06:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We could put "Live" in the album information cell. (Metnever 22:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC))[reply]
Revert it if you really hate it but I think we have a winner Megamanic 01:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This will work well, looks good. You messed up on the table but I fixed it. (24.28.146.88 19:37, 23 November 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Bootlegs[edit]

I asked over at MUSTARD about the legality of listing bootlegs & they seem to think it's fine. How about adding a list? I don't think we should say where you can get them. No links to torrents or anything, however an exhaustive list would be helpful to obessive fans who want to hear everything and also to casual fans who don't want to get ripped off by a poor quality live recording when there's still legitimate stuff to buy... Megamanic 01:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tribute Albums[edit]

Is this relevant? The albums are not by Rush, usually not even by notable artists. A "Richard Thompson" tribute with tracks by Bob Mould & REM is one thing but a low budget collection of whodats trying to get their career onto the first rung of the ladder by associating themselves with a multi-platinum act in this way is pretty desperate. Now, I'm going to let you come back with a reason why we need these albums listed in a Rush discography - as opposed to a "whodat" discography - if there's nothing of note in a week I'm going to "Be Bold" & delete the tribute albums. Megamanic 07:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Worldwide Sales vs US Sales[edit]

I noticed that the albums up to Test For Echo have worldwide sales, but Vapor Trails and Snakes and Arrows have US sales. Shouldn't these last two have worldwide figures?

Fair use of the album covers[edit]

I suspect this is not a fair use of the album covers. At a minimum, the image pages provide no rationale for their use in this article. RedWolf 02:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you going after Oasis as well? It was their template I was advised to copy by another wikipedian! Anyway let's look at the fourfold test from Fair Use:-
  1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
  2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
  3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
  4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

1. Non-profit, educational or at least informative as to Rush's discography answering questions like "what was the album with the red cover?" which is unanswerable without providing thumbnails.

2. The copyrighted work is an album including the sleeve hence:-

3. The portion related to a thumbnail of the album cover is vanishingly small and also less important than the music (otherwise bands wouldn't have a problem with MP3 bootlegging because the bootleggers wouldn't have the sleeve...)

4. I would imagine it only increases the value of the copyrighted work allowing people to find albums they don't yet own. The thumbnails wouldn't help a hypothetical bootlegger reproduce the packaging in an acceptable manner.

Maybe this remains a grey area legally until tested in court but I can't see a sane artist wanting us to remove all thumbnails and therefore test fair use in this manner. Megamanic 05:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What happened to all the album covers? Metnever (talk) 01:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Fair-use on discographies test case[edit]

Please see Talk:The_Beatles_discography#Poll_on_the_use_of_fair-use_images_on_this_page_and_the_interpretation_of_policy which is acting as a test case in this matter. Jooler 09:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rush - Profiled![edit]

Should the interview CD Rush - Profiled be listed here? --212.149.211.247 10:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. Interview CD's are NEVER included in discographies. Doc Strange 14:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Music Videos[edit]

Guys, I'm pretty sure that there's another music video released that is not listed. "Circumstances", (1978 I believe). You can easily find it on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49q59A8OhM8

Just like 'Fly By Night' and 'Anthem', it's one of those which resemble a live show but has no audience. However, unlike those it's NOT synched! Presumably to make it more natural??

Any thoughts on this?

Total Studio Albums[edit]

The page says they have 19 studio albums. As of Snakes and Arrows, they have 18. Is Feedback being counted as an album and an EP? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.157.37 (talk) 00:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback should be counted only as an EP. Rush actually has 18 studio albums, and one EP. After Clockwork Angels is released, they will have 19 studio albums. --Shredder2 (talk) 22:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

toronto rocks dvd[edit]

Should this be listed somehow under the discography?LedRush (talk) 00:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

studio albums[edit]

The band says in a press release that Clockwork Angels is the 20th studio album. They consider the EP to be a studio album. Is there a reason we don't?LedRush (talk) 04:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey LR, good question. I think since Feedback is an EP of covers it doesn't fit nice and snuggly into the category of studio album. Maybe it's a Wikiproject music guideline? I don't mind either way. It is, of course, technically a "studio" album. I don't have a good answer. I've addressed this at Talk:Clockwork Angels. Wisdom89 (T / C) 17:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A second debut single.[edit]

It seems you guys were missing a debut single on the list. The song itself is called "You Can't Fight It", and is available on the other side of the vinyl record that has "Not Fade Away" on it. That record happens to be incredibly rare to find nowadays, but I've found the song in question on YouTube.

You Can't Fight It - Rush (1973)

Take a listen. I've taken the liberty of examining the table's code, and adding in You Can't Fight It to the list, using the rowspawn line to add the song to the 1973 section. 24.226.58.7 (talk) 16:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You know people, when you decide to up the numbers on Rush's Mainstream Rock charting songs, next time keep in mind that the chart didn't even exist before 1981. Morons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.123.111 (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Table in Singles section not rendered correctly...[edit]

{{Wikipedia books|Rush}}

... when creating a book as pdf document. Actually there's no table, just floating text.

A link to create a book can be found at the bottom of the Rush article.

Just wanted to let you know. Maybe somebody knows how to fix this. 77.2.195.254 (talk) 00:23, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you detail what you're trying to add; and, in what way the table is not rendering correctly? BigJoeRockHead (talk) 03:17, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there is no table, just the content of it, all in one line, wrapping around at the right border of the page. I don't want to copy it here but you can have a look at the book, page 54 (which is page 60 of the pdf because of 6 contents pages). It's probably a bug in the pfd creation process but I don't know where to report it. 77.2.195.254 (talk) 09:13, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Snakes & Arrows is 2x Platinum in Video Longform only, not album format as indicated. Unfortunate, but true. Recheck the RIAA page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.179.62 (talk) 21:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is missing an album[edit]

There is a Rush album titled "Archives", released by Mercury Records in 1974 containing the first three albums in a triple-album package. I'm not sure what source I can cite, but I'm sure an experienced Wiki editor will know how to confirm this album's release and provide the citation to update this article. Remsleep42 (talk) 22:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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