Talk:Room 39

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Move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Page not moved: discussion shows alternative solution Ground Zero | t 01:23, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Room 39 → Room 39 (North Korea) – See below. Auric talk 13:08, 19 August 2014 (UTC) Since the Royal Navy organization is far & away better known, this page should be moved, to, frex, Room 39 (North Korea). TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 02:52, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both are equally prominent. I support move suggested, but don't agree about Royal Navy being truly the prominent one. For me, no preference needs to be given to the UK establishment which should stay a redirect under Room 39 (Royal Navy). Best neutral solution would be to render Room 39 main page as a proper disambiguation page and let the reader decide. werldwayd (talk) 21:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The UK organization (for which "Room 39" is just a nickname) has another, better-known name, this one does not. They're not comparable uses. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 13:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While I disagree the two are anything like "equally prominent", if this page is hatnoted with the current address of the Brit organization, I'm happy to leave it be. (It was that one I was looking for to begin with...) TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 20:50, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Multiple issues[edit]

This article links Kim Jong Un to Room 39, but most of the sources are dated before he came to power, and the article seems to be directed towards his father. Symptomatic of that, it says, "many claim that Room 39 is critical to Kim Jong-un's continued power", oblivious to the fact he died in 2011. There is a clear need for an update. Many references are roughly a decade old. Moreover, many of the key points made are not supported by any references. Overall, there is a lack of neutrality. Rather than a factual account, there is a series of accusations and speculations with an overall negative tone.--Jack Upland (talk) 11:22, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editor above seems to have conflated Kim Jong-un with Kim Jong-il. Anyway, if there are no specific objections as to neutrality, I intend on removing the tag. El_C 22:24, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]