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Copyright[edit]

This is likely not a copyright violation. The text of this article was copied from the website of the Texas Senate. Text on government websites in the United States are generally in the public domain. There is no copyright notice on this website, as there are on private websites, but I cannot find an explicit statement that the text there is in the public domain. —Centrx→talk • 05:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure that unless you get a definitive statement of GFDL or similar from the Texas Senate, the article, it its previous incarnation was 100% copyvio (being a 100% copy and paste of the html of the site). Using the info found there as a source to make a vital article seems the best approach. Budgiekiller 21:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am absolutely 100% positively sure:

* Copyright applies to all works of state and local govenments (unless they have waived it or a different exception applies).

* The "government" exception to copyright only applies to works created by the Federal government, their officers and employees, but NOT their contractors or whomever else they do business with.

therefore, if you find it on a state website, it's probably copyrighted (unless some other reason applies); if you find it on a Federal website, it might be copyrighted, and you need to determine it souce. A weather map on the national hurricane center's website, http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ is just so obviously a work of the Federal government; however, there is material on the White House website that is covered by copyright (as this notice says). studerby 02:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When Ellis was a city councilman[edit]

I found http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=1989_657791 WhisperToMe (talk) 19:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re-write needed[edit]

This article reads like it was written by his press secretary. It needs a thorough review for neutrality, and a lot of additional inline citations per WP:V and WP:BLP. Ground Zero | t 12:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Went back and rewrote much of the entry. Added citations for all claims and deleted portions that had neutrality issues. Rodneyellis (talk) 22:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Much of this article is taken from Ellis's Texas Senate webpage, which is described as his "homepage". It is clear that the text is provided by him or by his office, so it is not a third party source. This article can be improved by providing references to relaible third party sources, like newspapers and newsmagazines. Ground Zero | t 20:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Passing legislation[edit]

The article, before I edited it, referred repeated ly to Ellis passing legislation, as if her was able to do it on his own. His Texas Senate homepage also says this repeatedly. I am more familiar with British parliamentary systems, where legislation is passed by a legislature or parliament, rather than by a single legislator like a senator. Can American legislators pass legislation on their own? Ground Zero | t 20:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality (again)[edit]

I have reverted edits made by an unregistered editor because they violated WP:NPOV. An encyclopedia article about a person should neither villify or glorify its subject. An article about a politician must not sound like it was written by his or her press secretary as these edits did. Ground Zero | t 21:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Went back and rewrote much of the entry. Added citations for all claims and deleted portions that had neutrality issues. Rodneyellis (talk) 22:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: "Passing legislation"[edit]

It's extremely common in state legislatures in the U.S. to state that Rep. X or Sen. Y "passed a bill" if they were the lead author on the piece of legislation - i.e., if they were the elected official that first filed it. Indeed, any bill does require a number of votes from other individuals prior to it getting passed, but that doesn't change the fact that Rep. X or Sen. Y were the leading force behind the bill's passage. I looked on Google for 10 seconds and found a Huffington Post article re: Rep. Paul Ryan with the title of "Paul Ryan Only Passed 2 Bills Into Law In More Than A Decade."^[1] Dedmo (talk) 20:41, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/paul-ryan-bills_n_1769816.html

Heavy re-write complete[edit]

Went back and rewrote much of the entry. Added citations for all claims and deleted portions that had neutrality issues. Rodneyellis (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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