Talk:Rim-Sîn II

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mistake on the page[edit]

the article indicates Rim-Sin II was a contemporary of Samsu-Iluna. It goes on to state that Rim-Sin II ruled from 1678-1674 BC. Samsu-Iluna ruled from 1750-1712 BC. I believe the dates indicating the "short" reign of Rim-Sin II are not correct.

On cuneiform tablets, the 11th year Samsu-Iluna's reign is sometimes listed as:

      mu sa-am-su-i-lu-na lugal bad3 gal ur2i{ki} ba-du3 u3 larsa{ki} mu-un-gul

This is translateable to:

      Year Samsu-iluna the king built the large city wall of Ur and destroyed Larsa

I would place Rim-Sin II early on in the reign of Samsu-Iluna. Rim-Sin II reigns for some years (my belief is that these are the years that Samsu-Iluna is dealing with the Kassites and various rebellious states (around year 8th of Samsu-Iluna). Rim-Sin II enjoys total control of Larsa for a single year, then Samsu-Iluna (having quelled the rebellions) focusses on him. 5 years after Rim-Sin II declared himself king, he was beaten.

I would place the reign of Rim-Sin II of Larsa as 1741-1736 BC. This is supported by my sources and by a series of tablets I am currently translating. In these tablets there is made mention of Ninurta-Mansum, son of Taribum. These tablets (from the archive of Mannum-Mesu-Lissur) are dated as Si 10, Si 11, Si 12 or as being from years 10, 11 and 12 of the rule of King Samsu-Iluna (more exactly as being from 1740 BC, 1739 BC and 1738 BC respectively). If we place Rim-Sin II at 1741-1736 BC, then a tablet dated RS-II 3 (or year 3 of the reign of king Rim-Sin II would be placed in 1738) which mentions this man as a witness would be in line with the others.

Sources: - Alexander, John Bruce; "Babylonian Inscriptions In The Collection Of James B. Nies - Vol. VII: Early Babylonian Letters And Economic Texts"; Yale University Press, 1943. - Goetze, Albrecht; "Yale Oriental Series, Babylonian Texts - Vol. X: Old Babylonian Omen Texts"; Yale University Press & Oxford University Press, 1947. - Owen, David I., Stone, Elizabeth C., Mitchell, John R.; "Mesopotamian Civilisation - Vol. III: Adoption in Old Babylonian Nippur and the Archive of Mannum-Mesu-Lissur"; Eisenbrauns 1991 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.190.253.144 (talk) 10:25, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]