Talk:Recovery (Eminem album)/Archive 1

Fake Tracklist

Ok, an unconfirmed tracklist of an album due to be released in about 5 months, is probably fake.(it also contains many songs from fake tracklists of relapse 1).Bnvdarklord (talk) 10:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

People keep changing the tracklist, is there a way to lock the page? McKillaboy (talk) 15:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Background

The two albums were recorded at the same time and actually were supposed to be one album, so as a matter of fact they have the same background. --DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

No, they actually are not. The Background section is suppose to indicate the events that immediately preceded the release of the album, hence it's called "background". On this article, the background should really be about the reception of the first of the two Relapse with whatever may come along with it. To be honest, there really very very little to write on this album at the current moment. Thanks, Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 12:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, actually I thought that the background was about The personal things an artist went through while making the album and what convinced him to make it, but if you say so, then it seems I was mistaking. --DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 17:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

It seems that the album came out of the same recording sessions as Relapse, so maybe the background could be extended a bit to somehow mention that? Although there's nothing to really confirm that, other than Eminem's statement about him and Dre going back into the studio for six months, and even that doesn't exactly make it clear, as all the Relapse 2 songs could have been recorded after the stuff that winds up on Relapse. So yeah, probably best to leave it alone... ElijahReno (talk) 19:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Squared?

Why was the article moved to a squared? Has this been confirmed? --HELLØ ŦHERE 18:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't say squared anywhere else... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toonamiguy (talk • contribs) 19:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I can't find sources confirming the change to ². Let's move it back..--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

This got removed from the original article, but on therelapse.com a fictious tour through em's fake popsomp hills rehab center he has another room set to open on june 3rd. i have to think this will be when em reveals the release date.76.227.149.209 (talk) 02:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Even if the album carried a superscript 2 in the title, the article should still be named "Relapse 2". See other articles covering subjects with superscript numbers in their titles, such as Alien 3, Doom 3 and Postal 2. Digitelle (talk) 03:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Lock the article

I think the article doesn't really need any more edits for now. Many people keep adding unconfirmed tracklists etc, so i think is should be locked for the time being.Bnvdarklord (talk) 14:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I somewhat agree. --HELLØ ŦHERE 14:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Agreed Kiraisgod666 (talk) 14:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

It's kinda exhausting. We just got over the vandalism problem in the Relapse article...--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 20:59, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Eminem's own website calls it "Relapse: Refill". If you're going to lock the article, at least change the title. [1] --70.73.43.100 (talk) 23:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Dude one, this wasn't about the title. And two, Relapse: Refill is a re-release of Relapse why can't people understand this? It is NOT a NEW album. It IS an OLD album with NEW tracks. They are VERY different. A reissue (also known as a re-release or re-edition) is the repeated issue of a published work. In common usage it refers to an album which has been released at least once before and is released again, sometimes with alterations or additions. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 00:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Title

Most other websites are referring to it as Relapse II.Toonamiguy (talk) 06:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Such as? -- A ^talk/_contribs 12:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how many websites refer to it as such. Until there is an official press release for the album, the way the number suffix will be presented is up in the air. Digitelle (talk) 19:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Relapse: Refill  : Track List

1. "Ken Kaniff" (skit) (:44) 2. "Etymological Creature" (4:35) 3. "Patterns" (3:40) 4. "On Display" (4:21) 5. "Bring it Round" (5:23) 6. "Tickets" (skit) (1:22) 7. "Osiris and Isis" (featuring Dr. Dre) (5:08) 8. "Illicit" (3:54) 9. "Fail to Cooperate" (4:02) 10. "Steve Berman" (skit) (:54) 11. "Psychoactive" (5:10) 12. "Point" (4:25) 13. "Regulate" (featuring Obie Trice and 50 Cent) (5:01) 14. "Aaron Beck" (skit) (1:05) 15. "Magna Cum Laude" (2:57) 16. "Accurate" (3:42) 17. "Fatherhood" (5:52) 18. "Diagnosis of Disease" (4:32) 19. "Paul" (skit) (1:14) 20. "Lazarus Taxon" (5:22) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.165.27 (talk) 01:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC) sounds like a load of crap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.114.206 (talk) 04:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Definetly fake. Although this one seems much more believeable than some of the other ones I've seen popping up, nice try though —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.125.159.186 (talk) 03:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

T-Pain?

"Eminem stated he wants something more than he gave, as compare to his first Relapse album. He admitted his fueds with many rappers being "retarded" but he lists T-Pain & Kanye West as wanting guest line ups."

↑ Where did that come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DinoAvdic (talk • contribs) 21:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Insult to Injury

There's a song called "Insult to Injury" on Relapse 2.

Source: http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/features/archive/2009/07/10/21767957.aspx?FORM=ZZNR3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.114.206 (talk) 11:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, this is probably not relevant enough for a mention, but according to producer Mark Batson (one of Dre's staff), the lead single for Relapse 2 is somewhat of a sequel to "The Real Slim Shady."

Source: http://twitter.com/markbatson

It's a legit Twitter. Paul Rosenberg (Em's manager) is following him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.191.114.206 (talk) 10:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand, but it has to be third party. If any other website (not related to Aftermath/Shady/G-Unit/Interscope) talks about it, it's perfectly acceptable. Ya know? --HELLØ ŦHERE 20:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks anyway for the first single info, sounds like a hit record already haha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.125.159.186 (talk) 03:26, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

You're not really supposed to add comments but I hope its better than "We Made You", ugh. Jp0291 (talk) 01:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

NEW SONG!

NEW SINGLE or just a song off Relapse 2???

The song is titled "The Warning", it's a diss towards Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon

Source is here: http://www.rapbasement.com/audio/eminem-ft-mariah-carey-the-warning.html --TheHalfbreed (talk) 23:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Neither, or at least neither can be verified yet. I'm pretty sure it's just a song Eminem did on the side as a response to Nick Cannon's comments a couple of months ago. I wouldn't expect to see it on the album. Digitelle (talk) 00:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

• • Well i would agree with you. but the song Bagpipes from Baghdad was a dissing response towards Mariah Carey and was placed on Relapse. Later Carey released her response titled Obsessed and now Em releases this song. . . There was also previous dissing songs between the two and they were all on previous albums. So there may be a possibility that The Warning is on relapse 2. Just need to wait for the future to find out. --TheHalfbreed (talk) 06:36, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, there may be a possibility. And was "Bagpipes from Baghdad" released long before the album? It's unsourced that it has anything to do with this album. I would maybe say that if he mentioned either Relapse or Relapse 2 in the song at all, it could maybe be included. But as of right now, there is nothing connecting this song to this album, so it's left out. --HELLØ ŦHERE 06:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The difference between "The Warning" and "Bagpipes from Baghdad" is that "Bagpipes from Baghdad" was recorded during the sessions of Relapse and Relapse 2 (the sessions were held at the same time, but the songs are being compiled separately), whereas the content in "The Warning" deals with Nick Cannon's comments and Mariah Carey's latest music video, both of which happened much later after the principal album sessions took place. Digitelle (talk) 07:46, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Recent "Relapse 2" Information

There is sourced news following this link which may help out the "Relapse 2 article: http://www.forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61570 =) 92.9.126.81 (talk) 15:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

A forum is not reliable. --HELLØ ŦHERE 16:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Rolling Stone has the date as November TBD in their fall music preview does anyone know what source they have if any? http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/30138422/rolling_stones_2009_fall_music_preview/14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebigragu104 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

confrimed songs

from the sources I have found there are three confirmed tracks insult to injury hear them calling me and addicted

And what "sources" do you have? --HELLØ ŦHERE 21:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Is this true "Royce has stated that the sequel to "Bad Meets Evil" (alluded to in the first part of the song with the line "See you in hell for the sequel") may be recorded and released on Eminem's upcoming 2009 seventh studio album, Relapse 2." Btw I found this on The wiki page for Bad Meets Evil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Meets_Evil —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.147.141 (talk) 15:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

PEOPLE FORGET TALKING ABOUT THIS ALBUM...IT AINT COMING TILL JULY 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.13.49 (talk) 12:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with talking about an album? Secondly, do you have a source for that release date? --HELLØ ŦHERE 13:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

for hear them calling me just look it up on google the beat is sick but its only the hook the version with eminems verses hasnt been leaked yet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.155.201.155 (talk) 15:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

new relapse 2

on shade 45 eminem said he and 50 have a song on there where they spit verses back in forth and just blaze has produced about 5 songs and mr porter has produced 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.156.45.240 (talk) 19:55, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source to back this up? --HELLØ ŦHERE 23:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Rapradar, Eminem, 50 Cent, Just Blaze, Paul Rosenberg, all confirmed it. http://rapradar.com/2009/10/03/eminem-says-just-blaze-has-4-or-5-tracks-on-relapse-2/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toonamiguy (talk • contribs) 10:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Eminem stated on October 6, 2009 on Shade 45's Tony Toca's Tuesday show that Relapse 2 will definitely be more "emotionally driven" as compared to the first Relapse, detailing that on the first record he was merely showing that he could still "spit", whereas on the new record he is aiming to make music that people can actually "feel". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.26.202.168 (talk) 04:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Source? --HELLØ ŦHERE 14:54, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Google it and u'll find the interview -.-123.255.63.45 (talk) 15:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

http://www.xclusiveszone.net/2009/10/eminem-toca-tuesdays-interview.html Here's a URL source for the interview. I know blogs aren't reliable sources, but the interview itself on the download links is authentic. I think there's something very important information for Relapse 2 in the interview. Namely the whole thing with it being "more emotionally driven." This ought to be added to the wiki article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.176.83 (talk) 17:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Heres the link..The guy Hello there keeps deleting whenever i make this change for some reason even after i gave reliable sources . Heres your MOST reliable source . MTV. [2]Asid12345678 (talk) 17:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Taking My Ball

Anyone else see this track from DJ Hero? Some are saying it will be the first single off Relapse 2. But don't quote me on this. http://www.djhero.com/game/renegade/ SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 17:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I know in that Shade 45 interview on Whoo Kid's birthday, he said there was an exclusive track just for the game which was recorded during the sessions for the first batch of Relapse 1 records. Not sure if this is the same track, but yeah. --HELLØ ŦHERE 17:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

2010

In a new 50 Cent interview, he said not to expect Relpase 2 until the 1 half of 2010. I have a source,

http://hiphop-n-more.com/2009/10/50-cent-talks-his-new-book-bisd-vitamin-water-relapse-2-with-amp-radio/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.248.10 (talk) 16:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Blogs are not reliable sources. If this is true, we'll have to wait for a proper source to state the information. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 21:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I think its safe to say this cd is not coming out until 2010. In this article with Just Blaze, he explains how him an Em are still completing songs for Relapse 2. The time it takes to finish recording the songs, master them, get the cd to interscope and mass produce it is nowhere near two months. So lets change the release date to tba 2010. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1624252/20091020/eminem.jhtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebigragu104 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Release date

November 17th, 2009...

Unsourced. --HELLØ ŦHERE 18:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Change the release date on the article! It's even too late to give it a December release date. It very clear that this wont even be released in 2009. It's impossible to get it done and release it within a month and a half without advertisements. --70.233.102.223 (talk) 03:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Umm it's sourced. Besides Eminem released "We Made You" a month before Relapse was released. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 03:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Well the release date for it on play.com is 7 December. Apparently thats an unreliable though for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMonomaku (talk • contribs) 09:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Because anyone can put up a release date for a retail website. Therefore, unreliable. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 13:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

If a December release was even considered, the 22nd would be the most likely...failing that it would be the 29th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.57.20.114 (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Real Or Fake?Looks Real

Newest info I got people. Heres the link, doesnt mean its confirmed, just speculation

http://www.realraptalk.com/f3/eminem-relapse-2-tracklist-leak-893294/

Eminems new album Relapse 2 is set to be released on December 15th 2009, and is split into two acts, Sleep talking and Awakening. The first act is supposed to represent being blinded by anger, while the second act represents, as its title says, awakening. This is also the first album released by Eminem to not have any skits or joke songs. Eminem stated he wanted the album to be his strongest album, in case he decided Relapse 2 would be his last.

Tracklist

ACT I - Sleep Talking

1. With Shut Eyes 2. Norman Bates Motel (Feat. 50 cent) 3. A Poets Graveyard 4. Make It Wise 5. With In These Walls (Feat. Nate Dogg) 6. Sixth Sense 7. S.O.S (Sound Of Shady) 8. Haunted Nation (Feat. Snoop Dogg) 9. Insult To Injury 10. Spitters Symphony (Feat. D12)

ACT II - Awakening

11. The Ghost Of Shady's Past 12. Marshall's Chains 13. Detoxification (Feat. Dr.Dre) 14. Dreadful Sins 15. Sober (Feat. Amy Winehouse) 16. Flight Of The Dead 17. The Final Chapter 18. Gun Slinger (Feat. Royce Da 5'9) 19. Waking Up (Feat. Proof and Elton John)

The album will be out December 15th 2009, and be sure look for the first single "Make It Wise" sometime in November.

all looks real besides sober —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.226.156.107 (talk) 18:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC) This does look pretty legit, and sounds like an awesome tracklisting like perfect actually, but yeah no Amy Winehouse song that seems iffy seeing that he makes fun of her in the "We Made You" video —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dearsonist (talk • contribs) 20:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

A forum? Really? Wikipeda's reliable source policy. Read. Please. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 22:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Track List 1. Insult To Injury 2. Addicted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyboy1016 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

he decided Relapse 2 would be his last.

I really doubt that part is true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.220.33 (talk) 23:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I really bet this is true!! Amy Winehouse couldn't do a song w/him b4 and so she must of finially. She's a Eminem fan but at the time was working on her album and couldn't. I don't know why sooo many people doubt that this can be true...I bet its the song that has been referred to as Stan 2 (a similar sounding and awesome song, it's not a Stan part 2 per say. People need to think more about these things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.202.223.64 (talk • contribs)

That's nice that you think it's true, but please don't delete other people's comments. And this isn't a forum. Please take remarks like this somewhere else. --HELLØ ŦHERE 02:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

New release date

Amazon.uk said, that Relapse 2 will be released on February 1, 2010. Real or not ? I think it's real. <ref>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Relapse-2-Eminem/dp/B002KCO8SQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1250829217&sr=8-1</ref>

No. Retailers just list dates to entice orders. Q4 2009 is still the most accurate release date. 66.57.20.114 (talk) 22:44, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Can someone please change the release date back? Sureiyaa (talk) 02:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Reverted. Please do not change the release date without a reliable source. Retailers are not reliable sources. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 02:41, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

When will the current source stop being reliable? January? There is no way it's coming out in November anymore. 83.251.227.58 (talk) 23:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

If it doesn't come out in November then we will put "TBA" in the infobox and mention that it was reported to be released in November but it wasn't and, until a new date is confirmed, it "has no current release date". --HELLØ ŦHERE 23:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Relpase Refill?

Has anyone else heard about this? If so do you believe this? For those who havent heard its the first Relapse but with seven new songs on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.226.156.65 (talk) 03:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

It's confirmed. However, this does not mean that Relapse 2 is scrapped. I think it just means that this album had to be pushed back and Em still wanted to release more music this year. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 04:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

According to Rolling Stone, The Refill will be the first Relapse album plus 7 other tracks; and Relapse 2 will be released in 2010. JoeD80 (talk) 03:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

It is confirmed on http://www.eminem.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=23741 that Eminem will re-release Relapse on December 21st, adding 7 new songs. Two of which are Drake's Forever, and DJ Hero's Taking My Ball. the remaining 5 are leftover from the making of the original Relapse and Relapse 2. He has started from scratch on Relapse 2 and is going in a new direction; the songs are very different from those on Relapse.

He is hoping for a release sometime in 2010 for Relapse 2. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okushar (talk • contribs) 03:38, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Should be a separate page for Relapse: The Refill and Relapse 2 then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.60.20.75 (talk) 04:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC) I think "Relapse: Refill" should just have its own section on the first Relapse page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dearsonist (talk • contribs) 05:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

If anything, please change the release date. It has incorrectly said November, 2009 for quite a while now, and now it says a date which is also totally incorrect. Eminem and 50 Cent have said that Relapse 2 will not be out until 2010. http://www.eminem.com/default.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okushar (talk • contribs) 06:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Release Date

Who put the release date as December 21, 2009? That's NOT Relapse 2. It's just Relapse 1 being re-released with a bonus CD of 7 extra tracks. Relapse 2 is set for 2010.--Tainted Drifter (talk) 11:27, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

New Music Video?

I have read from 2 sites including eminem.com that he his shooting a new video in detriot will it be from relapse 2 or refill? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.226.156.30 (talk) 18:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I can't find it on eminem.com. Can you post a link? And if you post a Twitter status I may have to scream at you a little. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 07:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

http://www.eminem.com/events/detail.aspx?eid=64986&cmnt=1#s_comments_anchor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.182.236.203 (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Jay Electronica/Mr. Porter/Royce da 5'9

In this interview bellow, Mr. Porter talks about Jay Electronica working with Eminem. But he only talks about this for a few brief seconds and its a long interview. He talks about alot more thing about Relapse 2 and the Royce da 5'9 collaboration too.

http://usershare.net/YouHeardThatNew/ut5klprafvjj

(thats the download link to the interview) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.221.202 (talk) 04:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but sadly that isn't enough of a reliable source. --HELLØ ŦHERE 04:20, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Relapse 2 Is About Done!

http://www.theboombox.com/2010/03/19/exclusive-eminems-relapse-2-almost-done-jay-electronica-on/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.136.27.19 (talk) 18:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Hit Me With Your Best Shot Ft D12

It's been almost two years since Detroit's D12 have collectively released an album. While 2008's Dirty Dozen was the group's first to showcase them without the marquee attraction of Eminem or their late co-founder Proof, Bizarre explained how the respective members have been using their time apart.

While on tour in Canada promoting his Friday Night At St. Andrew's album, Bizarre called in to the "Conspiracy Worldwide" radio show to address all things D12.

"We're still recording the third album, and we just finished a song on Relapse 2 for Marshall's album," Bizarre said via phone. Tentatively titled "Hit Me With Your Best Shot," Bizarre says the collaboration shows that despite major losses such as the death of co-founding member Proof, nothing can keep the group down.

"We're still family , but everybody's got their own situations going on," he added. "No matter what y'all do, you can't hold D12 down. We've been through a lot of shit, but we're still gonna come back and recover."

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.10875/title.d12s-bizarre-talks-relapse-2-canibus-diss-track

Nice find. I've added the information into the article. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 21:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Guests

Please don't keep reverting the change on the guest . Check the sources and the links provided . Most mention of them working together but not on which album . Plus of the one mentioning Cashis working on the album . Cashis and D12 told they 'll be on Relapse but were not . 50 cent told he'll be all over Relapse but he was not . No word can be taken official until Eminem says it himself . Asid12345678 (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Exactly. There's absolutely no f-ing way Lil Wayne, Drake, and Lloyd Banks are on the album. Heck, 50 Cent may be questionable at this point. I'd say the only feature to EXPECT would be Dre, as he's the executive producer and has had a verse on every Eminem album to date (except Infinite.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evan1989 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't doubt if Drake was going to be on Recovery, as Eminem is an executive producer for Drake's Thank Me Later and Drake has stated Dre and Em will be on a song together. Aside from that fact, there is no sources pointing to Drake being on the album, so it shouldn't keep being put into the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.37.123 (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Quit the Fake Tracklist

whoever put the tracklist on 2010 quit its wrong there is only one confirmed song and thats "insult to injury" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.226.156.6 (talk) 22:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed Songs

Insult to Injury Hit me with your best shot featuring D12 Keys to the City And theirs a song from the Alchemist produced A song where Eminem and 50 Cent go back and forth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.255.170 (talk) 16:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

^"Keys to the City" was released as a promotional single(2007) for The Alchemist's album Chemical Warfare in 2009...

And Em was not in it...

Can someoe delete it. they are all drake songs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyexpo (talk • contribs) 16:54, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

No Relapse 2

Eminem has posted on his twitter account that "There is no Relapse 2". Papasj (talk) 11:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

--Yup, and since his account is verified, someone change the title... Bnvdarklord (talk) 15:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Recovery

Eminem posted on his Twitter that the album name is now Recovery and its set for a release date of June 22nd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.245.2 (talk) 19:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Eminem2010, 24 April 2010

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Life Will Stop Eminem

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Life Will Stop Eminem New Song From Recovery PROOF URL LINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEO7Cv7FWNk

Requests to edit semi-protected articles must be accompanied by reference(s) to reliable sources.

YouTube and Twitter are not reliable sources.  Chzz  ►  12:10, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

 Not done

The song "Not Afraid" Will premiere on Shade45 on Thursday April, 29th 2010 at 10am

check his managers Twitter ... www.twitter.com/bunyan71

hey i got the single on my youtubechannel. heres the link for the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyQM9MawvY

btw in the song he says that he'll never do the accent thing again^^

Recovery

I bet recovery is going to be the recovery of Eminem having a relapse —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.80.74.30 (talk) 14:06, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Album cover

The album cover is fake. It's a still from the "Beautiful" video. Someone please remove it.

No, it is sourced by a reliable source. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 20:52, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

What reliable source?It's a photo from the annual Eminem calender , I can scan my calender as proof. Asid12345678 (talk) 19:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

It was posted by Rap-Up Magazine when "Not Afraid" was posted. Click on the cover and look at source. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 19:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes , and where does it confirm that it's the album cover . Rap Up is the same website that posted the fake Refill tracklist saying it was true . Since when did blogs like Rap Up become official sources sir. Asid12345678 (talk) 19:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Here is a scan of my 2010 Eminem calender http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/369/13backcover.th.jpg . Please get a more reliable source next time .Asid12345678 (talk) 19:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

The "blogs are unreliable source" rule has loopholes. Rap-Up is one of them. Also Rap-Up did not post the Refill tracklisting, I just searched the archives. Since when can't an artist use a photo for a cover? Please do not argue unless you can back it up with a source, a calendar is not even a source. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 06:55, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

And where does it mention that that is the official cover . Even smaller artists are give separate pages for official album covers . Forget smaller artists Eminem's Relapse had a separate page for the album cover.eg. Snoop dogg , Rihanna etc . Raprader which is co owned by Eminem's manager first told that might be the album cover and then deleted it .And since when did artists start using old photos as Album cover . Atleast Eminem doesn't do that . Asid12345678 (talk) 09:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Your argument is still invalid. Your saying all these things without providing ANY kind of proof or sources. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 19:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me , YOU are the one you should provide proof here . Every person here is supporting me except you . Give us proof that Rap-up has written that it's the official cover of the album . Give us proof that Eminem has been using OLD pictures as album covers . Give us proof that Rap-Up has stopped making separate pages for covers of Anticipated Albums .In face Recovery was placed at the 2nd position at Rap=up in the most anticipated lists . Give us proof that why Eminem has not even put the album cover on his twitter or his own website like he did when Relapse's album cover was released . Please give us Proof . Asid12345678 (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Who is supporting you? Your the only one arguing with me. I have posted the link where Rap-Up posted the cover and I provided the source on the image page. It doesn't matter if they didn't post it separate. They still posted it. The only thing you have provided is redundant explanations of original research and a picture of a calendar. I don't see how that makes you think your right. Stop arguing and find a source that says the cover posted is not official and I'll gladly drop my argument. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 20:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I was asked to join this discussion, but I'm actually not quite sure on which side I'll come down on. SE KinG is right that Rap-Up isn't just a blog, it's also a magazine, and the one time it was brought up at the noticeboard for reliable sources it was called reliable. However, I for one am not sure how much to trust their page. They are not audited, and they do get things wrong: a very recent error I remember is that they claimed Rihanna's "Rockstar 101" to be released as her fourth single, which turned out to be false (but MTV got that one wrong too, so ...).
Rap-Up has categorized the article as Album Covers, FWIW, and it's not necessarily an issue that the cover is based on a still from the video. Asid, do you have something further on the incorrect tracklist that you say came from Rap-Up? You said the image was circulating, can you point towards other sites where the image was brought up? I couldn't find any, only other fakes.
I've just added a disclaimer in the caption, to distance ourselves somewhat from the fact, and asked User:Kww for his opinion. Hopefully this will clear up over the next few days anyway.
Cheers, Amalthea 22:17, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

No where in that reference provided is stated that this image is the album cover of this album. Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 02:57, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Agreed it says no where in the source that thats the cover. When did a picture next to something that mentions a song in the album become the cover. It could be a promotional poster. And plus it doesnt look like something Eminem would make his album cover. STAT- Verse 03:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Exactly , since when did "rumored" covers started getting accepted on wikipedia . Raprapdar changed the image n the article as soon as they knew it was fake , they changed to some photo of Eminem performing so there's no way I can give any "proof" on that base but still just wait for 15-20 days when the tracklist and Cover are released through Em's twitter like it did last year during Relapse . Asid12345678 (talk) 04:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

For starters, Twitter is an unreliable source. And still NO ONE has provided anything besides original research to prove the album cover is fake. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 05:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

For vetrans , Twitter can be considered a reliable source if the account is verified and the title of the artists album was announced on the twitter itself . Asid12345678 (talk) 06:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

No one uses Twitter as a reliable source. This argument is just being repeated points. Just because a picture was used before, it does not justify it to be removed. T.I. used the same picture for his singles "Hell of a Life" and "I'm Back", "Live in the Sky"'s single cover art was a desktop wallpaper that T.I. had on his website. So, just because an artist uses a picture once, doesn't mean they can't use it again. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 03:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

An Album cover is Different from a Single Cover . Eminem too has been using old photo's as his Single cover including the recent single Not Afraid who's photo was circulating around for a few days .Also ,Hell Breaks Loose , Elevator , Just Lose It , Encore (the single) , Stan , The Way I Am . But then again , i was just doing what you did , repeating the facts you already know . An Album cover , specially by the Biggest Artist of our time makes news . Relapse's cover had a separate page on MTV .So , I'm surprised you didn't change the title of the album back to Relapse 2 because for the first 10 days until Eminem gave the radio interview , his twitter was the only way we knew about his Album's title as Recover but then again you'll say the twitter rule as loopholes right ? Weird how Rap-Up is the only website who wish to show the cover of Eminem's album anymore . Guess the man who has the highest selling Rap Album of this century and the highest selling Rap Album of 2009 is over . God Help Him . Asid12345678 (talk) 07:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

FWIW, a Twitter account of a singer can be used as a primary source, for facts where it is appropriate. But that doesn't help us here. Amalthea 10:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the day he announced he changed his album title to Recovery, he also posted it on his website and MTV posted it. This argument is now redundant with the same thing being said. I'm done arguing, removing sourced content goes against Wiki policies. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 12:07, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Are you referring to me? I only talked about Twitter as a source in general, I'm not arguing against the cover image: I agree that it's coming from a reliable source, no other reliable source disputes it, so it passes WP:VERIFIABILITY. Since it hasn't been confirmed officially and I am somewhat suspicious, I added the disclaimer to explicitly say where it came from. Since nobody can offer anything beyond suspicions, I agree that we should keep it unless it can be shown as false. Amalthea 13:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the source stated does not state that it is the album cover. If he did release the album cover then the site you cited would have a seperate news article for it, not one for the song "Not Afraid". Also the listing for Recovery at Amazon.com does not display anything for the cover yet. I have looked and I cannot find any reputable sources that also state that is if the official album cover, just a bunch of fan sources. If it was the official album cover then it would be announced on all of the reputable sources, including MTV. Even the people in Eminem's forums have proven it to be a fake [3]. Therefore it is not the official cover for "Recovery". Taylor Karras (talk | contribs | Rcool35) 22:39, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Those are two AMAZING sources you have provided, a forum and a retailer. Great job. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 05:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Note that Amazon.com is a big and notable retailer, obviously if this was the real album cover then we would see it on Amazon.com, also the forum thing is not proof that it is a fake, it is a consensus that the album cover is a fake. Your missing out on the fact that the source (Rap-Up.com) does not state that this is the official album cover, anywhere. The image is just used in relation to a new song, where does it state in the source that this is the album cover, the official album cover. Also what do you mean Eminem and MTV posted this cover on his website, can you give me a source for that?

This is completely crazy, if it's posted on Eminem's twitter, website, MTV or Amazon.com then it's official, otherwise it's fake unless the source states that it's the official cover. And I'm not referring to Wikipedia, I'm referring to everywhere. Taylor Karras (talk | contribs | Rcool35) 05:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how big of a retailer Amazon is, it is NOT a reliable source. You need to read Wikipedia's reliable source policy before you attempt to argue sources. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 12:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

It's a reliable source to me because the major music companies (UMG, Warner Music Group, EMI, Sony Music) sell their products on Amazon and it's also a reliable source because the major music companies post what the official album cover actually is. Also aren't you ignoring the two other sources... It's kind of odd you would focus on one thing. Taylor Karras (talk | contribs | Rcool35) 01:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Well , SE king , I guess now I can say this again that "everyone" is supporting me . Here's another source which obviously is not gonna convince you .http://www.hiphopmusicdotcom.com/eminem-recovery-mixtape.html Asid12345678 (talk) 06:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Everjeff, 29 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

The reference for the mention of Recovery featuring Lil Wayne and Drake doesn't actually say that anywhere.

Everjeff (talk) 19:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

DoneSpitfire19 (Talk) 22:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

To be fixed when protection is removed

"The song features his rap group D12, Bizarre of D12 said the new song shows the groups strength despite losing Proof, who was the founder of the group. " ^There are two errors. First, the first comma creates a comma splice that must be removed (i.e., replace the comma with a period). Second, 'groups strength' should be 'group's strength'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.43.241 (talk) 18:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

The Warning

How could the warning be a confirmed track it was a freestyle diss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.67.204.38 (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Where is it a confirmed track? SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 03:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Someone made a confirmed track section and it was there. But no worries that section is gone STAT- Verse 03:25, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

That cover is fake

The picture is from an Eminem poster. http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/eminem-10-b-cal-dan.jpg --DinoAvdic (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

As discussed two sections up, at #Album cover, isn't it possible that the same image is being reused as a cover? The magazine Rap-Up claims the image to be the cover, by listing it in its "Album covers" category. They are usually reliable, but it's not a sure thing of course unless confirmed by the production company, which is why the cover is captioned with "according to Rap-Up". Amalthea 17:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Yep. It's fake. I can't believe people think it's a real cover. lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.159.47 (talk) 07:48, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Has any source said it was fake or are you just deciding that it is fake?--99.234.115.165 (talk) 00:50, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Do sources really have to do this?If I spent some time and made a fake Cover , the sources wouldn't acknowledge that you know —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asid12345678 (talk • contribs) 05:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I love how some people think they are intelligent saying its real. No, it's not, lol. It was cropped from a freakin' calender. It was from the Beautiful music video shoot. Why would they use something from a past album for the cover. And look at the text for "Recovery". I'm so sure it's gonna look like that. Oh, and Interscope, nor Eminem have confirmed it. When it gets confirmed, THAT'S when you post it. I'm so sure Rap Up is gonna get the cover before any official website does. Jp0291 (talk) 00:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

It's fake for two reasons: 1) A guy admitted he created the cover in a forum(not really solid source, I know, but worth mentioning), and most importantly 2) The cover should be in eminem.com instead of that refill theme they still have. Bnvdarklord (talk) 22:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

It's being released today. Watch for it. Told you it was fake. Jp0291 (talk) 19:21, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thats Drake Tracklist

Remove that fake tracklist, It's drakes but with Not afriad at the top instead of fireworks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.67.207.83 (talk) 17:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Alternate Cover

Just uploaded the alternate cover Asid12345678 (talk) 08:18, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

T.I.

T.I. was not confirmed for the album. He said he did a song with Eminem for his album, King Uncaged, but nowhere does it say anything about a song on Recovery. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.177.44 (talk) 22:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 Yo u ppl gotta change the guests section if u already know who they are  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.189.78 (talk) 21:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC) 

Tracklist is correct!

1. COLD WIND BLOWS

2. TALKIN’ 2 MYSELF FEAT. KOBE

3. ON FIRE

4. WON’T BACK DOWN FEAT. P!NK

5. W.T.P.

6. GOING THROUGH CHANGES

7. NOT AFRAID

8. SEDUCTION

9. NO LOVE FEAT. LIL WAYNE

10. SPACE BOUND

11. CINDERELLA MAN FEAT. SCRIPT SHEPHERD

12. 25 TO LIFE

13. SO BAD

14. ALMOST FAMOUS

15. LOVE THE WAY YOU LIE FEAT. RIHANNA

16. YOU’RE NEVER OVER

NOTE: Can we please remove 'Confirmed via Rap-up?! They were wrong about the previous album cover and the former track list! The one I've given is the REAL one. Its been confirmed via www.Eminem.com!

SOURCE: http://www.eminem.com/default.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.107.227 (talk) 20:19, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

guests

i guess since the real tracklist came out u can delete the crap bout 50 cent d12 royce 5 9 cashis and lloyd banks bein on the album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.211.229 (talk) 22:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, please delete the stuff about possible guests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okushar (talk • contribs) 03:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Tracklist???

I'm not sure about the tracklist. I know it was posted on Eminem.com but read the URL it says BLOG. The source also said it was posted by some random person NOT Eminem or one of his assosiates. If this tracklist was real Eminem would have at least mentioned it on his Twitter. STAT -Verse 00:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Paul Rosenberg runs Eminem's Twitter. Also, Paul confirmed it on his OWN Twitter. It's confirmed. Not sure why people find this so hard to believe. Jp0291 (talk) 02:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Twitter is not a reliable source Okushar (talk) 02:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

A Twitter account of a singer can be used as a primary source, for facts where it is appropriate. The Tracklist is also on rapradar which is co owned by Em's manager . Plus I had to convince this dude trying to act smart about that Album Cover and now I gotta handle someone arguing about the tracklist . If it wasn't posted by one of Eminem's associates then why do you think it's on the homepage of the website . Asid12345678 (talk) 12:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

"A Twitter account of a singer can be used as a primary source" Paul Rosenburg is not a singer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okushar (talk • contribs) 22:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Kain702, 28 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

That IS NOT the real tracklist. Please take note and take all of that down. Kain702 (talk) 02:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

According to Eminem.com this is the real tracklist. Do you have a source for it being fake? Okushar (talk) 02:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

 Not done

Album Cover-->S<--

It should be noted that the album art with Eminem walking down the road is the for the Edited version of the CD, and the other one is for the explicit version. Look at the first 2 albums on http://www.eminem.com/discography/ for proof. Okushar (talk) 03:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

"Both Recovery album covers come in the same booklet. You can flip the cover to show the one you like better. We liked them both!"- Paul Rosenberg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.59.133 (talk) 11:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

there is so much crap on this page

ive been reading this page and theres so much crap from the past few months tht isnt even tru bout the album. someone needs to clean up sum of this crap and lav only the stuff thats true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.211.229 (talk) 06:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Sasan50cent, 28 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Guests section must be removed, or get changed , because there is no more Lloyd Banks, Royce Da 5'9', 50 Cent, or Cashis on the album , thanks . Sasan50cent (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —fetch·comms 17:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

they are not confirmed on the track list there not on the album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.115.165 (talk) 23:02, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

New single?

What source do you have that Love the Way You Lie is gonna be released on tuesday? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.189.78 (talk) 00:33, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

fake single date

"Alex da Kid announced on Twitter than Eminem and Rihanna's collaboration will be released soon."

are u sure?! sounds like a kid named alex trying to get his name on wiki... LOL Credit to him but this shouldn't be up here.. Eminem has not stated that anyone called 'alex da kid' is a producer on the album yet alone does he have a twitter! Get a source or remove it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.11.39 (talk) 16:40, 3 June 2010 (UTC) yeah eminem said in an interview that alex da kid is a producer on the album but the single makes no sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.189.78 (talk) 19:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Eminem ft. P!nk leak-add please

http://www.rap-up.com/2010/06/03/new-music-eminem-f-pink-wont-back-down/

Leaks are not noteable unless an artist speaks on it. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 20:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, MTV confirmed "Wont Back Down" is the 2nd single. go check, they just put it up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.36.105 (talk) 22:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Eminem ft. P!nk - Never back down, released not leaked.. (edit please as 2nd single)

Yeah, sorry. Just saw it now: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1640718/20100603/eminem.jhtml

it was released on to the web via 'Rap-Radar' which is a website set up by Eminem's manager Paul Rosenberg.. so, do we list this as a second single ahead of 'Love the way you lie' ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.11.39 (talk) 00:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Yup ^ It's the second single and produced by DJ Khalid according to MTV/RapRadar: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1640718/20100603/eminem.jhtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.162.250 (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Leak

Why isn't there any information on the leak of this album? It was leaked on June 7th, but there is still no information on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.131.156 (talk) 04:13, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Tracklist Times

Those times aren't real...It's not been confirmed and there is no reliable source, it's just FDL making up BS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.162.250 (talk) 05:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

The Warning?

Isn't the Mariah Carey diss song "The Warning" going to feature in the Recovery album? It even says that DJ Whoo Kid states that the song "not as intense as the entire album would be", which implies that "The Warning" will be in the album??? 121.219.124.211 (talk) 00:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

That was a diss song he did on the side. STAT -Verse 01:13, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Leak

The entire CD just leaked like an hour ago, it's pretty nice, I'm blastin' it right now. Should someone add a section onto the article or something? I don't know if I'm allowed to do this, but the leak is here: [deleted by JohnFromPinckney] Darth Veckin (talk) 02:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I have deleted that link in your comment, because, as your instincts told you, it's not something you're allowed to do. (But then, you went and took the material for yourself, too.) It is not at all appropriate for WP to link to unlicensed material, even on a Discussion page. As a more direct response to your question, we don't need such a section, as explained here. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 05:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks man. I read that paragraph, and it said it could be placed into the article if there was broad media coverage, well here's a few stories of the leak: [4][5][6][7] And considering that this is the most anticipated album of 2010, [8] and it leaked a full two weeks before it would be released, (thats a huge amount of time! For reference, Lil' Wayne's Tha Carter III leaked one week before release and still had 1 million illegal downloads), I personally think a Leak section is a good idea under the Release History section. Darth Veckin (talk) 21:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

"Gun Go Off"

The track "Gun Go Off" leaked along with the rest of Recovery but I don't see it on the tracklist. Possiblly bonus track? STAT -Verse 02:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Possibly track 17 from the leak aka the "Untitled" track? 174.54.57.5 (talk) 05:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

1. 17 is called There We Go. Jboncha (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC).

        ^ It's produced by Havoc, says it in the song.

Yeah the untitled track is 'Gun Go Off', but I'm pretty sure the official name is 'Untitled'.Darth Veckin (talk) 21:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Is there a source that the hidden track is "There We Go." STAT -Verse 23:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

So Bad

Produced by Dr. Dre, Eminem says it in the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.162.250 (talk) 08:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Just Blaze

Produced "Cold Wind Blows" and "Seduction" via his twitter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.162.250 (talk) 11:52, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Producers

after i heard about the leak i looked it up online and found out denaun porter produced "on fire" and former ann arbor resident emile (i have no idea who) produced "going through changes" http://www.freep.com/article/20100608/ENT04/100608017/Eminem-s-new-album-Recovery-leaked-online —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.8.227 (talk) 15:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that On Fire is produced by Dr. Dre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.130.32.236 (talk) 19:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Mirza.areeb, 8 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} I would like you to add that the album has leaked on 8th May 2010.

Mirza.areeb (talk) 16:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tim Pierce (talk) 16:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Done, but in future, please specify the exact change you want made to the article, together with sources as necessary. Cheers, haz (talk) 16:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Kima546, 8 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} To Whom This May Concern:

Please change the producer credits for Eminem's song "Cinderella Man" Just Blaze did not produce the song, rather it was produced by Script Shepherd.

Under Track Listing for Recovery (Eminem album)

Please change: 11. "Cinderella Man" Just Blaze 4:39

To correct way: 11. "Cinderella Man" Script Shepherd 4:39

Right now it says that producer credit for this song is confirmed on Eminem.com However, it is not confirmed on this website. It only lists the name of the tracks and not the producer credit. This fact can be confirmed on capitolscript.com as well as the album sleeve when it is released. This email is coming from the Law Office of John Ambrose, the attorney that negotiated the deal between Script Shepherd and Shady Records. Kima546 (talk) 16:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Partly done: I have removed the credit for Just Blaze. I visited capitolscript.com but was unable to find any useful information on that site. If and when the producer credit for Script Shepherd can be confirmed by a reliable source, it can be added to the article. Tim Pierce (talk) 17:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.231.81.24, 8 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Track 16 is produced by Havoc

98.231.81.24 (talk) 19:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

reliable source? CTJF83 pride 19:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

"Space Bound" is produced by Jim Jonsin. He confirmed it via Facebook. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.181.37.111 (talk) 20:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Please read WP:RS, and the provide a reliable source for any changes. CTJF83 pride 20:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Until we have a source for this, there is not a need to change the article. Please let us know when you have a good source, and we will make the change.

 Not done ^Avicenna_sis @ 21:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Ammu851985, 8 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} The Entire album has now leaked onto the internet as of June 8th

Ammu851985 (talk) 20:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

"Going Through Changes" contains a sample from Black Sabbath's "Changes" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brimeredith (talk • contribs) 20:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. ^Avicenna_sis @ 21:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Here is a reference for the entire album leak : http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1641008/20100608/eminem.jhtml Otiel (talk) 21:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

cold wind blows

are u sure just blaze produced this song because it sounds lik a dr. dre beat to me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.204.253 (talk) 21:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Album leaked

Tracks didn't leak, the entire album just leaked. I have the entire album on my iPod... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.52.207 (talk) 01:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

talking to myself

im pretty sure talkin to myself contains a sample of genie in a bottle becase the beat sounds jus lik it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.204.253 (talk) 02:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

your never over

it sounds lik a jim jonsin beat. (for example whatever you lik, kiss me thru the fone, i run, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.204.253 (talk) 03:05, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Leak

The numerous mentions of the album leaking on the article page are unnecessary. This happens with every commercial released album, and the leak is not notable in any way. All references to the leak should be removed from the article.75.138.214.127 (talk) 04:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

read WP:LEAK according to it this leak is noteable. STAT -Verse 05:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

As there's no consequence (i.e., record label or artist response) - mention of the leak is non-notable. --Madchester (talk) 02:19, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Really bad line

"which sent Universal Music Group into a frenzy" Annoying how the page is locked with that in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.140.92 (talk) 14:31, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

this jus doesnt make sense

ok so they found the production credits but it seems lik blaze dre and jonsin traded their sounds wit each other or somethin cuz cold ind blows sounds lik a dre beat and your never over sounds lik a jonsin beat but idk thts jus my rap mind —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.204.253 (talk) 21:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

2 disk

Will there be 2 disk with this album??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.136.27.231 (talk) 23:09, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Page protection

I've protected the article for a week following a request on RfPP. Please discuss the issues here and try to reach an agreement. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^{talk contribs} 00:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Official Producers

{{editprotected}}

Okay i found a list for the official producers on all the songshere

it is as follows: 1. COLD WIND BLOWS (PRODUCED BY JUST BLAZE) 2. TALKIN’ 2 MYSELF FEAT. KOBE (PRODUCED BY DJ KHALIL) 3. ON FIRE (PRODUCED BY MR. PORTER) 4. WON’T BACK DOWN FEAT. P!NK (PRODUCED BY DJ KHALIL) 5. W.T.P. (PRODUCED BY SUPA DUPS) 6. GOING THROUGH CHANGES (PRODUCED BY EMILE) 7. NOT AFRAID (PRODUCED BY BOI-1DA) 8. SEDUCTION (PRODUCED BY BOI-1DA) 9. NO LOVE FEAT. LIL WAYNE (PRODUCED BY JUST BLAZE) 10. SPACE BOUND (PRODUCED BY JIM JONSIN) 11. CINDERELLA MAN (PRODUCED BY SCRIPT SHEPHERD) 12. 25 TO LIFE (PRODUCED BY DJ KHALIL) 13. SO BAD (PRODUCED BY DR. DRE & NICK BRONGERS) 14. ALMOST FAMOUS (PRODUCED BY DJ KHALIL) 15. LOVE THE WAY YOU LIE FEAT. RIHANNA (PRODUCED BY ALEX DA KID) 16. YOU’RE NEVER OVER (PRODUCED BY JUST BLAZE)

17. UNTITLED (BONUS CUT) (PRODUCED BY HAVOC) STAT -Verse 01:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Guest Apperance On Cinderella Man & Sample On Almost Famous

1. who is the guest singer on the song Cinderella Man? he isn't credited
2. where is the vocal sample on Almost Famous from? its not listed in the credits on this article either

Siwhat (talk) 12:38, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Gogomkd123, 10 June 2010

{{editprotected}} The last sentence in the introduction will cause decline in the sale of the album so please delete it. RIAA will be happy trust me. The sentence tells that the album leaked. Don't spread illegal things on Wikipedia. Make Wikipedia the only place where everything is legal. Thank You.

Gogomkd123 (talk) 11:18, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

We're not here for the pupose of increasing record sales, so your justification in the first sentence is inadequate. I personally could not give a rat's toenail if RIAA is happy or not. The sentence about it leaking may not be worthy of including in the lede, or even in the article at all (music and films frequently leak, and it's not always notable), but it actually did happen. Your instruction not to "spread illegal things on Wikipedia" suggests two things: (1) that we are telling people to distribute or consume the album without permission, which we are not; and (2) that we should remove all mention of any other crime, act of treason, riot, unethical behavior, malfeasance, or arguably illegal activity, etc., from every article in WP. And how would we write about our governments then? Or, heh, the RIAA?

Or did you confuse this site with Napster or somebody? No downloads here. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 11:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

N Not done and not likely to be done. The information included is based upon reports in the media and it is directly relevant to the article. We don't encourage people to download it, and we certainly don't include links to the leaked content itself - we merely report that there has been a leak. In other words there is nothing illegal here, and a possible reaction to correct content is not our responsibility. Marking this request as done as well. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 12:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Proper Producers In Cover Scans. Please Fix.

http://i49.tinypic.com/jaxlog.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/16m2hc4.jpg http://i47.tinypic.com/33yi4jm.jpg

For The Lazy People. Producers By Song: 1. Just Blaze 2. DJ Khalil 3. Mr. Porter 4. DJ Khalil 5. Dwayne "Supa Dups" Chin-Quee 6. Emile Haynie 7. Jordan Evans & Matthew Burnett 8. Boi Ida 9. Just Blaze 10. Jim Jonsin 11. Script Shepherd 12. DJ Khalil 13. Dr.Dre & Nick Brongers 14. DJ Khalil 15. Alex Da Kid 16. Just Blaze 17. Havoc

—Preceding unsigned comment added by GR3EN (talk • contribs) 01:52, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUESTS: 2nd single from recovery will be 'Wont back down'

FROM EMINEM'S TWITTER: "Won't Back Down #recovery RT for chucks walk in! Em gave us a song off his new album that comes out on june 21st and its BAD ASS!

06/10/10 06:19 from web"

(SEE EMINEM TWITTER) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.70.79 (talk) 13:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

second single is like the way you lie featuring rihanna —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.11.136 (talk) 03:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST:

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE THAT THE ALBUM LEAKED ONLINE FROM THE INTRODUCTORY PARAGRAPGH TO BACKGROUND OR RELEASE HISTORY... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.70.79 (talk) 13:22, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

YO GUYS

please change the producers -- they are wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.232.76.150 (talk) 16:25, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

THE REAL PRODUCTION CREDITS

http://www.rapbasement.com/eminem/060910-the-producers-of-eminems-recovery-album-are-leaked-view-the-info-here-click-now.html Jp0291 (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

second single out

love the way you lie featurng rihanna is out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.11.136 (talk) 03:50, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

THE REAL PRODUCTION CREDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Cold Wind Blows
   (Produced by Just Blaze)
2. Talkin’ 2 Myself Feat. Kobe
   (Produced by DJ Khalil)
3. On Fire
   (Produced by Mr. Porter)
4. Won’t Back Down Feat. P!nk
   (Produced by DJ Khalil)
5. W.T.P.
   (Produced by Supa Dups)
6. Going Through Changes
   (Produced by Emile Haynie)
7. Not Afraid
   (Produced by Boi-1da)
8. Seduction
   (Produced by Boi-1da)
9. No Love Feat. Lil Wayne
   (Produced by Just Blaze)
10. Space Bound
    (Produced by Jim Jonsin)
11. Cinderella Man
    (Produced by Script Shepherd)
12. 25 To Life
    (Produced by DJ Khalil)
13. So Bad
    (Produced by Dr. Dre & Nick Brongers)
14. Almost Famous
    (Produced by DJ Khalil)
15. Love the Way You Lie Feat Rihanna
    (Produced by Alex Da Kid)
16. You’re Never Over
    (Produced by Just Blaze)
17. Untitled
    (Produced by Havoc) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.120.129.186 (talk) 14:11, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Official Track List Released, Including "Untitled" and two Bonus Tracks

If you look on itunes, you'll see that the "here we go" song is actually called "untitled", and the deluxe editon will feature two exclusive tracks. i think that "here we go" should be changed to "untitled" and that these bonus tracks should be added to the tracklist. anyone else agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.110.7 (talk) 22:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Yessir, should be done asap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinushka501 (talk • contribs) 07:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST - 'No Love ft Lil Wayne' will be second single

EMINEM ANNOUNCED VIA HIS TWITTER:

We got Wayne's verse filmed before he went away luckily. Gotta shoot the rest of a "No Love" video real soon. Keep your head up Weezy!

06/13/10 12:18 from web

http://twitter.com/Eminem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.105.242 (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

just because he is making a music video does not mean it will be the second single, he could release another single in five minutes if he wanted to. it will be a single (most likely) but dont edit anything yet.

Pushed Up

The album was pushed up a day to June 21.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.11477/title.eminem-bumps-recovery-release-up-to-monday-june-21

STAT -Verse 23:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Yo Unlock this page right now

The album is dropping in less than a week now, and there are major errors on this page. First of all, the producers list is right here:

http://www.rapbasement.com/eminem/060910-the-producers-of-eminems-recovery-album-are-leaked-view-the-info-here-click-now.html

There are major errors on this page pertaining to that list. Then I myself, made an error in putting the Havoc track as "Here We Go," it is infact entitled "Untitled." It is also a Hidden Track, not a bonus track. There will be two iTunes bonus tracks that are currently untitled as of yet, you can check them out in the Deluxe Pre-Order of Recovery on iTunes. You also need to unlock this page because the album did get pushed up a day earlier to June 21rst, as someone already stated. So please act immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Broomtherapper (talk • contribs) 03:41, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

OK, I updated the information as mentioned by Static and yourself. I will not mention the exclusive tracks mentioned on iTunes until titles of the tracks are released (more appropriate to have them already titled than have "Exclusive Track" #1 and #2). I'm assuming the block remains still for another few days. Any further edits, mention them on the talk page and we'll consider them. -Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 04:02, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

fake producers

everyones been postin the same producr list. jus wait till the album comes out wen its official —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.141.179 (talk) 06:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Album booklet scans with all producers and samples

{{editprotected}} Rap-Up published scans from the album's booklet on Sunday (link). It has all writing and production credits, samples and recording studios that were used for this album, so this is what the actual track-listing looks like. I also added the iTunes bonus tracks. Please add the following:

Eminem has writing credits for all tracks. Additional writers are included for each song.

No.	Title	Writer(s)	Producer(s)	Length
1.	"Cold Wind Blows"	J. Smith, S. Byrne, H. Marsh, J. Perry, C. Synge	Just Blaze	5:04
2.	"Talkin' 2 Myself" (featuring Kobe)	K. Rahman, P. Injeti, B. Honeycutt	DJ Khalil	5:00
3.	"On Fire"	D. Porter, C. Wilson, L. Wilson, R. Wilson	Denaun Porter	3:34
4.	"Won't Back Down" (featuring Pink)	K. Rahman, E. Alcock, L. Rodrigues, C. Smith	DJ Khalil	4:26
5.	"W.T.P."	L. Resto, D. Chin-Quee, J. Gilbert	Supa Dups, JG (co-producer) Additional producer: Eminem	3:58
6.	"Going Through Changes"	E. Heynie, J. Osbourne, A. Iommi, W.T. Ward, T. Butler	Emile	4:59
7.	"Not Afraid"	L. Resto, M. Samuels, J. Evans, M. Burnett	Boi-1da Additional producers: Jordan Evans, Matthew Burnett, Eminem	4:08
8.	"Seduction"	M. Samuels, M. Burnett, S. Jordan	Boi-1da Additional producer: Matthew Burnett	4:35
9.	"No Love" (featuring Lil Wayne)	D. Carter, J. Smith, D. Halligan, J. Torello	Just Blaze	5:00
10.	"Space Bound"	J. Scheffer, S. McEwan	Jim Jonsin	4:39
11.	"Cinderella Man"		Script Shepherd	4:39
12.	"25 to Life"	K. Rahman, L. Rodrigues, D. Tannenbaum	DJ Khalil	4:02
13.	"So Bad"	A. Young, M. Batson, D. Parker, T. Lawrence, S. Cruse, N. Brongers	Dr. Dre, Nick Brongers	5:25
14.	"Almost Famous"	K. Rahman, L. Rodrigues, E. Alcock. P. Injeti, D. Tannenbaum	DJ Khalil	4:53
15.	"Love the Way You Lie" (featuring Rihanna)	A. Grant, H. Hafferman	Alex da Kid	4:23
16.	"You're Never Over"	J. Smith, M. Mainieri Jr., G. McMann	Just Blaze	5:06
17.	"Untitled"	K. Muchita, M. Crawford, J. Madara, D. White Tricker	Havoc, Magnedo7 (co-producer)	3:14

iTunes Deluxe Edition bonus tracks

No.	Title	Length
18.	"Reciprocate"
19.	"Blue Balls" (featuring Slaughterhouse)
20.	"Not Afraid" (video)

Samples

• "Cold Wind Blows" contains elements from "Patriotic Song" by The Gringos
• "On Fire" contains a sample of "Peace and Love" as performed by Mandrill
• "Going Through Changes" contains a sample of "Changes" by Black Sabbath
• "No Love" features a sample of "What Is Love" by Haddaway
• "You're Never Over" contains a sample of "Cry Little Sister" by Gerard McMann
• "Untitled" features a sample of "You Don't Own Me" by Lesley Gore

Just in case that those rap-up images go 404:

• Credits from "Cold Wind Blows" to "Going Through Changes"
• "Not Afraid" and "Seduction"
• "No Love" to "Untitled"
• Other credits

Thanks, Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 08:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done here. Let me know if there are any problems. TFOWR 16:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Recorded

Need to change that from 2007-2010 to 2009-2010. Clearly no songs on Recovery are from the Relapse time period, and certainly none pre-date it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evan1989 (talk • contribs) 09:19, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Commercial

Maybe it should be noted that a commercial was made for the album featuring Vince from the Slapchop commercials in somewhat of a parody of the Slapchop commercials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzrArpks3mk STAT -Verse 14:19, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 1Sire, 17 June 2010

{{editprotected}} Category:Albums produced by Alex da Kid

1Sire (talk) 00:33, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Done and { Unprotected ^Avicenna_sis @ 04:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

untitled

the song is not untitled its called here we go. i dont think eminem is that lazy to not think of a name for the song seriously u ppl sound stupid. nobody leves a song untitled on an album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.132.30 (talk) 03:59, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

umm..itunes says its called untitled...and i think thats a reliable enough source. oh yeah, and theres a ton of songs called untitled. there was a untitle album by nas. hell, heres an article Untitled

Why is this page locked??

The album is coming out soon, a lot of important new information is coming out and needs to get on the page quickly? As for the professional reviews section - as much as I disagree with Pitchfork's review, I believe their rating belongs on the page because they're a reputable site. But what is DJBooth.net? Just some relatively unknown hip-hop blog, from the looks of it. I don't think site this qualifies as a source of "professional reviews", and thus it doesn't belong in the "professional reviews" section on this page. 69.117.23.65 (talk) 19:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)david, new york—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.117.23.65 (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

cleanup

thees alot of information on this page from months ago about the album and some of it isnt even true. someone needs to delete some of the crap info on here and jus leve the stuff thats actually tru about the album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.174.115 (talk) 23:23, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviews

I don't think its fair to say that Recovery has received mixed reviews. That's based on a couple of early reviews from minor publications. Overall reception has been mixed to positive, but it's still too early to make a statement like that because the major reviewers like Rolling Stone and XXL haven't published reviews yet and the album hasn't even been released.

wikipedia is not showing any reviews written by an actual hiphop site. hiphopdx gave the album a 4/5 EDIT!!!!

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/reviews/id.1451/eminem-recovery

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.2.148 (talk) 02:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC) 

Help Me add a Reference

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/reviews/2010-06-21-eminemreview21_ST_N.htm

We need to add this reference to the USA today rating, of 3.5/4

Thedeadmanandphenom (talk) 00:05, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Reciprocate & Blue Balls

Are those really the other two tracks because it doesnt say that on itunes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.67.207.85 (talk) 00:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Bonus Tracks

1st one is called "Ridaz" 2nd called "Session One (feat. Slaughterhouse)" Source: iTunes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.203.75 (talk) 06:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviews

As mentioned above, it is far too early to deem whether or not Recover has received mixed or positive or negative reviews. Please remove the reviews from the non-official websites, such as slantmagazine.com which gave one of the most respected and praised albums in rap, The Marshall Mathers LP, a 1.5. It should therefore be deemed a nonreliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.77.103.115 (talk) 18:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Yah it looks like they are Eminem haters. STAT -Verse 23:53, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

It appears Metacritic only complied 5 reviews, which was the source for the album receiving poor ones. That's fishy. What's also fishy is the unnecessarily diverse amount of reviews compiled in the the Reception section. Most of these are from random or smaller publications or websites - where is Rolling Stone, Allmusic, Blender, etc? Those reviews haven't been written yet. We rarely use most of these reviewers sited, if ever, why use them here? --Iron Chef (talk) 20:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

GENRE

I believe this could be listed as rap rock and Midwestern rap as well as hip hop... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasanik97 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

It isnt really rap rock except Wont Back Down most of the beats are hip hop beats. STAT -Verse 04:05, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

They need to stop using Pitchfork Media as a viable source for music reviews. I honestly don't think they listen to the music they review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.220.100 (talk) 04:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Won't back Down is one, but there's LOTS of rock samples and acoustics. Lots of singing is involved as well... As for Pitchfork, I agree. IDK how Lil Wayne's atrocious "Rebirth" got nearly twice the marks as Recovery. Pretty sad... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasanik97 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

The sub-genres you're listing sound like your own opinion, which doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Hip-hop works for the infobox; anything else can be listed in the body of the article if it was mentioned with some importance on a reliable site. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 17:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Rolling Stone review

Rolling Stone released their review of Recovery.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/reviews/album/17385/118961 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.95.176 (talk) 20:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Rolling Stone review update

The review was changed from 4 stars to 5 stars.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/reviews/album/17385/118961 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.95.176 (talk) 22:50, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviews

Why was the review from The Daily Telegraph removed ?!! More of that, I don't understand why minor negative reviews remains on the page (Slant Magazine...), when some positive reviews (about.com, Atlantic) disappears again and again. Vincent.gva (talk) 09:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST - Reviews

The telegraph have given recovery 4/5 (LINK BELOW)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/cdreviews/7838988/Recovery-Eminem-CD-review.html

The London evening standard did the same: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/music/article-23846507-cds-of-the-week-eminem-and-lissie.do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.21.44 (talk) 00:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

The New York Daily News gave it 3/5 stars http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2010/06/22/2010-06-22_eminems_recovery_is_sober_apology_from_mature_rapper.html

--Cessnajunky (talk) 22:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Release

the albums been released find out wut no. it debuted at and put it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.151.146 (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

We wont know those figures till about tuesday next week O.o. STAT -Verse 22:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 79.77.13.171, 23 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} 2nd single - No Love - Ft. Lil Wayne -source- We got Wayne's verse filmed before he went away luckily. Gotta shoot the rest of a "No Love" video real soon. Keep your head up Weezy! Eminem's twitter - http://twitter.com/eminem 79.77.13.171 (talk) 02:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

That does not confirm it is the second single. STAT -Verse 02:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

 Not done - A music video does not confirm a single release. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 02:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Critical response

This section is a mess. There is no flow or grouping whatsoever, and the articles and reviews chosen are chaotic. Most of the cited reviews are from minor publications that aren't really used on most other albums. --Iron Chef (talk) 21:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Also, the cited source for the statement "received generally mixed reviews" is Metacritic, but at the moment metacritic has only compiled 5 reviews. So the score will change as more are added. Therefore this statement may become invalid very soon. --Iron Chef (talk) 21:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT 2: Don't remove the tags without discussing them here first. --Iron Chef (talk) 21:36, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

The reviews are grouped by the rating/criticism (first paragraph has mixed, second w/positive etc.); whether a publication is "minor" is irrelevant. And when Metacritic's page is updated then so will the article. Dan56 (talk) 21:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Wrong. The section may be loosely organized, but the problem is there are far more lines dedicated to particular reception (in this case, negative).

It needs major trimming. You can't just include every review you happen upon. The most commonly used reviewers for popular music (thus forming a loose standard) are Allmusic, Robert Christgau, Entertainment Weekly, and Rolling Stone. It's not like you can't include minor publications, but there's the question of what makes Slant Magazine more worthy to be included over some other minor publisher? Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. It makes for cluttered articles with far too much information on a particular aspect of a subject.

And to arbitrarily use any source just because it's been reliable in the past is irresponsible. The statement should be all together left out until the source can be counted on. And using WP:Common Sense, a compilation of 5 reviews isn't very reliable. --Iron Chef (talk) 21:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/127268-eminem-recovery/ This guys review really shows his lack of knowledge of rap in general. -Also, Eminem would be far better off if he never tried to sing his own hook again. Dude just can’t sing. -For all of his lyrical failings, particularly when it comes to women, however, he has an ace in the hole on Recovery: Rihanna. -Eminem will never make an album free of his hateful asides and misogynist tendencies—this much is clear. It’s particularly unfortunate because if Recovery teaches us anything it is that he absolutely does not need them. He seems to think it’s what we expect of him, and therefore he must provide lest we be disappointed in his newly cleaned-up act

Yes eminem don't sing in you hook even though you did the same on every album and propelled yourself to stardom for it. Please delete this idiots review. misogynist-tendancies? Yes just bringing up his mother means he hates every woman alive. Good reviewing. Remove this guys comments because he is just chatting shit. Also slant probably donates to wikipedia for some advertising fees. You should really moderate properly by checking well known webpages rather than sponsors/negatives just to even reviews out. These people are comparing this album to Marshall mathers LP for "greatness" even though they gave the same album unfavourable reviews. You don't do wikipedia any favours with inconsistency. --- Preceeding unsigned comment by 94.1.216.168

I'm sorry but your review of a review does not seem worthy enough to create the change. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 05:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

misspelled name Hafermann in Song credit

{{editsemiprotected}}

15. "Love the Way You Lie" (featuring Rihanna) M. Mathers, A. Grant, H. Hafferman Alex da Kid 4:23

CHANGE TO:

15. "Love the Way You Lie" (featuring Rihanna) M. Mathers, A. Grant, H. Haferman Alex da Kid 4:23 CKbusker (talk) 22:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:30, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Love The Way You Lie

I really think something should be said about Love The Way You Lie as it is in the top 10/20 on over 10 countries on iTunes. It is at #2 in Ireland, the US and Canada and also #6 in the UK! I do think something should be said about it as it will chart extremely soon! Thankyou Iluvrihanna24 (talk) 12:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC) Okay, its now #1 in New Zealand, #2 in Canada and US, #3 in the UK and top 10 in 6 other countries!

iTune's charts do not make a song noteable, only Billboard and/or excessive media coverage of the song. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 20:23, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

...where by "excessive", surely "extensive" is meant. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes I did. But I'm sure it will hit Billboard charts soon, if it hasn't already. It's getting some airplay by me. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 06:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes but it has just gone #1 in the US on iTunes! it is also #1 in New Zealand, #3 in the UK and in the top ten in over 10 other countries!! Plus the performed the song a week ago! Plus it also has over 10 million audience in airplay in the US. Iluvrihanna24 (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Release History

Came out in New Zealand on the 21st, I bought it ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.241.14 (talk) 09:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

WHOA!

Shouldn't this be in the BACKGROUND section?

On April 13, 2010, Eminem tweeted "There is no Relapse 2" to his followers. When he tweeted this, people started to believe that he was not releasing an album at all, but it meant simply that the album would be changed to Recovery. He confirmed this by tweeting "Recovery" with a link to his website. Eminem said "I had originally planned for Relapse 2 to come out last year. But as I kept recording and working with new producers, the idea of a sequel to Relapse started to make less and less sense to me, and I wanted to make a completely new album. The music on Recovery came out very different from Relapse, and I think it deserves its own title."[11][12] On April 27, Eminem released a freestyle titled "Despicable" over "Over" by Drake and "Beamer, Benz, or Bentley" by Lloyd Banks featuring Juelz Santana as promo for the first single, "Not Afraid", which debuted on Shade 45 on April 29.[13]

Anik (talk) 17:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST second single - already released.. some1 look into this

scroll down on the article (link below) says love the way you lie already sits top of itunes chart.. http://neonlimelight.com/2010/06/23/eminems-recovery-predicted-to-sell-600k-in-first-week/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.37.4 (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Update

Hey I just checked metacritic and it says 63 not 61 like this article has. Can someone please update the reception section please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.58.198.225 (talk) 01:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Festoons, 24 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_Shepherd

Please add this to all areas to be linked Thanks

Festoons (talk) 11:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Poorly written unassessed article. Wait until it gets improved and we see that it won't be deleted. SpigotMap 12:54, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.117.27.63, 24 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Please change the "untitled hidden track number 17 to Here We Go because it is the title of the final song on the album. 98.117.27.63 (talk) 23:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done:The tracklist titled the song as "Untitled"; there is not other name to the song. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 04:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Can we take off the cleanup note yet?

Pretty sure the article is fixed. Jp0291 (talk) 05:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

A well-written review

From AllHipHop: http://allhiphop.com/stories/reviewsmusic/archive/2010/06/23/22275535.aspx

This is the kind of review that shows the reviewer has actually listened to the album in depth, and has something meaningful to say about it.

69.117.23.65 (talk) 02:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)david, new york

 Not done I love this album but the more respected reviewers are taken over minor reviewers. STAT -Verse 06:36, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

album cover

Its says in the album cover section that behind eminem is the detroit civic center, actually its the Renaissance Center —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.239.217 (talk) 18:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done STAT -Verse 20:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Album covers

I will reverse the album covers images. According to Eminem.com, the cover of him walking down the street is the "edited" (clean?) version; the glass cube cover is explicit, which would be the artist's intended version. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 01:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

So what??? If you have seen any promotion for the album they always show the one of him walking down the road as the cover. STAT -Verse 01:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

You're right, that picture of him on the road does seem to be used more frequently on reviews and articles. I still think "explicit" albums are the intended, and primary, versions of an artist's vision, but your mature and kind response showed me otherwise. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 05:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Im sorry about not being "kind". And of note I bought the album today at Target which sells the explict versions and the cover on it is the one with him walking down the road as is all the copies there for sale. STAT -Verse 22:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

That's okay—it was the "So what???" part sort of threw me off, but you had a valid point, and I saw the explicit versions for sale with the street cover also. Can't argue with real world examples. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 07:19, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

"Space Bound" features an interpolation of "Drive" by R.E.M.

uhh... flagitious (talk) 06:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I actually have a slight problem with the word "interpolation"—the guitar part may have been sampled (although I don't know if this is really the case because the guitar part sounds completely re-recorded and played in various chord progressions). Interpolate means to insert into; nothing was inserted anywhere, the song is played with or on top of the guitar riff. In the film industry, interpolation is used to mean the creation of frames between two separate frames, like morphing. I'm not seeing either of these definitions working for the song description. - Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 07:25, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

753870 FIRST WEEK

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi Jp0291 (talk) 20:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Be sure to archive that site with WebCite since that page is constantly updated and will change (making the reference ultimately unverifiable). Re-archive the site each week the chart is updated and create a new reference for each updated citation. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 00:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I'm not good as these kind of things. Can someone else do it? I was just pointing out that the first week sales were officially out. Jp0291 (talk) 07:02, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

That's fine; I didn't mean you specifically, because obviously you were asking someone to do it. But if anyone wants to include the first week sales in the article, use the {{cite web}} template for the hitsdailydouble site as normal, and then add the archiveurl= and archivedate= parameters using this archived URL: [9]. (I went ahead and archived it just in case it changes in the coming days.) – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 07:13, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Umm its robbie, 30 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} In the overview of Recovery (Eminem Album) please add: Recovery sold 753,870 records in its first week of release. Umm its robbie (talk) 04:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

 Not done Not without a reliable source, thanks. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 05:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

The source is in the discussion directly above, though the topic author should have mentioned this (though maybe he didn't know). – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 07:15, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Ha! Funny. I didn't make any connection there. In fact, I think I just ignored that section, because it started with some computer-generated random number, and the rest was all caps. The content was just a link and the poster didn't actually say anything or provide any explanation, so I just disregarded it entirely. More spam or a fan-forum link.

So now I've looked at the hitsdailydouble.com page, but I don't see a legend or explanation anywhere. Is "power index" supposed to equal "U.S. Sales"? (1) If so, where does it say that? (2) If so, why don't they label it that way? (3) If not, what is it? Worldwide physical shipments? North American downloads? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 08:26, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... well, you've reached the limit of my knowledge. I've just seen the Hitsdailydouble website suddenly mentioned all over the place (on different forums) and I sort of went with the flow. I don't know if it's a new site or how reliable it is or why there's a surge in its popularity, and I most certainly don't know the answers to your good questions. Maybe someone will have answers. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 10:22, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Second single

... is "Love the Way You Lie". Source: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1642772/20100630/eminem.jhtml --12345abcxyz20082009 (talk) 20:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done STAT -Verse 00:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

No Love

It charted at 23 and there is a video, so pretty much needs a wikipedia page, single or not... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasanik97 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Is there more to say about it than your first nine words? If not, it can stay in this article. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:10, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

This entire article is just an absolute mess... the No Love spawning is just one side of the coin. Hopefully we'll have some order once things quiet down. --65.175.145.151 (talk) 18:41, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Promotion

Cinderella Man has been played on Sportsnation during highlights. Cinderella Man, Wont Back Down, and Not Afraid will be on the playlist for the 2010 X-Games.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/thelife/music/news/story?id=5346788 OS4life (talk) 20:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

                                      subject matter

i believe their is not anything about recoverys subject matter or lyrical content

i wish that their would be considering it is supossed to be very theraputic

lachie 313 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.164.214 (talk) 04:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 59.100.153.230, 26 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} The Untitled Track on the Album is "Eminem - Here We Go" Just Thought Id Throw That Out There For Anyone Willing To Edit It!  :)

59.100.153.230 (talk) 06:25, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

 Not done In the linear notes of the album it is titled "Untitled" STAT -Verse 06:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Until we have a source for this, there is not a need to change the article. Please let us know when you have a good source, and we will make the change. ^Avicenna_sis @ 07:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

In the booklet the song is titled 'Untitled'. Bnvdarklord (talk) 14:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Alternate cover

Some people are determined to remove the alternate cover from the article, including by attempting to have it speedily deleted "behind the scenes". There have been many discussions on whether or not the alternate cover can be considered fair use, and the consensus reached at these discussions (two of which are here and here) is boiled down to: an alternate cover that is significantly different from the original and is widely distributed and/or replaces the original passes the criteria for identification. Also, an alternate cover that is the subject of specific (sourced) critical commentary passes the criteria for inclusion. In short, the alternate cover on this article is significantly different from the original and is widely distributed, which passes criteria for identification. There is also some critical commentary in the article, in the Artwork section, where both covers are given a description, including the location of the alternate cover. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 18:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

After I questioned his removal he posted this on my talk page: "On wikipedia the primary preference for images are those which are classfied as free content. Per the policy at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria non-free content can only be used when free content is not available.

• Critically WP:NFCC#3a states that Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information. Therefore the use of more than one single/album cover is almost always not justifiable.
• Additionally WP:NFCC#8 states that Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. Therefore if words alone can explain alternative versions or releases of an album then additional covers are not allowed." Red Flag on the Right Side 18:40, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

That works for me. I'm merely playing devil's advocate. The image should be removed then. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 20:04, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 208.124.207.74, 7 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} the album was released on june 22, not the 18th wich is what you have

208.124.207.74 (talk) 14:21, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Properly sourced release date. SpigotMap 15:17, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Fan response?

Fans have reacted to the album very differently than many critics, citing it as Eminem's best (or one of his best). Maybe it's a possibility to add fan response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.44.206 (talk) 02:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I added something earlier (5/5 stars as average of 1700+ reviews on itunes which seems quite good evidence) but as I was unsure of how to referance this it seems to have been taken off already. Should definately be mentionned somewhere somehow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMonomaku (talk • contribs) 16:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Should not be done. Of course the fan response would be different, because fans of any artist tend to love whatever music the artist puts out. Lil Wayne fans loved Rebirth because he was one of their favorite artists, but did critics agree? Hell no. Is fan response mentioned in the Rebirth article (or any other album article for that matter)? Nope. Just because this is Eminem doesn't mean his album should get special treatment whereas others do not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.125.159.186 (talk) 14:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Why not? Relapse was looked down upon, even by his own fans, as his worst work to date (Both at the time of release, and present day). Critics agreed that it wasn't top notch. The case here is different however, as Recovery is getting panned by critics, but fans think it's one of Eminem's best albums. Rebirth wasn't that positively received by fans either. Some thought it was good, but hasn't taken off like this one has. I think the debut week sales spoke for all 3 of these albums. If Rebirth was good, it would have sold more then the 150K it did. Relapse wasn't great, debuted with 612K whereas Recovery made a debut with 741K, and the album was leaked two weeks earlier... fans speak in masses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.44.206 (talk) 02:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. Fans didn't like Rebirth. It has a 2.5/5 average rating on Amazon. Recovery has a 4.5/5 after Encore had a 3/5 and Relapse had a 4/5. Jp0291 (talk) 04:13, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Fans didn't like Relapse when it was released? Are you serious? All I heard about Relapse when it leaked was how amazing it was lyrically and how it was the record that should have come out after the Eminem Show. My best friend is an Eminem fanatic who loved Relapse to death when he got it. Then Eminem dissed Relapse on Recovery at least 3 times and suddenly Em's fans are dissing the same album they were praising a year ago. Now my friend says the only song he likes on Relapse was Beautiful. Eminem's fans just followed whatever he said and just went with it. Just look at the comments on this page that was related to Relapse back when it was released on RapBasement.com: http://www.rapbasement.com/eminem/052109-kanye-west-and-run-dmc-member-dmc-talk-about-eminems-new-album-relapse.html The vote ratio was about 8:1 in favor of Relapse. And nowadays the same people bash Relapse just because Recovery was better than it. I never liked Relapse, and I never will. I thought Recovery was good (not great), and critics didn't pan the album, it got generally favorable reviews. Like I've said before, just because the fans liked it more than the critics (which is almost always true for any artist), it doesn't mean Eminem gets special treatment and gets a fan response section. And Wayne has more haters than he does fans nowadays, thats why the Amazon and iTunes ratings are so low for the album. Sure, it was a piece of sh!t but I haven't heard a Wayne fan tell me that they didn't like Rebirth yet (and there's plenty at my school). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.125.159.186 (talk) 18:00, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I think that has to do with replay value. I LOVED the album when it first came out but I started disliking it WAY before Eminem said anything about disliking it. I used to listen to every single song on the album daily besides Crack a Bottle and Old Time's Sake. Always hated those two. But now I only listen to Hello and Deja Vu. Not saying this is everyone's case. And there are plenty of Lil Wayne fans that hate Rebirth. My friend who has every single album and mixtape hates it. I just don't get why a critic's opinion matters more than a fan's. Another thing, the metacritic user score is really high also. But look at Drake's. It has a 7-something. Not very good. Just saying that ends the "of the course the fans like it" argument. Jp0291 (talk) 17:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 88.207.118.19, 14 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} I would like to place a score of aproffesional album review of Eminem's Recovery album and a link on wikipedia, HHUnit's link is: http://www.hhunit.com/index.php/rap-album-reviews/109-eminem-recovery-review HHUnit is known for detailed album reviews, and they are usually used on wikipedia. Example is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pursuit_of_Nappyness look at the right side under Professional reviews and place something like that for Eminem's Recovery! Thank you.

Write up the content, and then re-add the {{editsemiprotected}} tag. Make sure it is in the form of "I want to change X to Y" or "I want to add X after W". --ANowlin: talk 20:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

88.207.118.19 (talk) 00:19, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Missing HipHopDX review

someone add the 4 star hiphopdx review to the review section:

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/reviews/id.1451/eminem-recovery —Preceding unsigned comment added by PrescriptionDeath (talk • contribs) 06:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

HipHopDX is not the most noteable website for reviews. Also per WP:ALBUMS, only 10 reviews are allowed per album page. SE KinG. ^{User page.} _Talk. 06:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

so slant magazine and pitchfork are more notable than HipHopDX for reviewing rap albums? ROFL

- PD —Preceding unsigned comment added by PrescriptionDeath (talk • contribs) 07:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Exactly! The only hip hop site to review the album doesn't get put up? That's BS. Jp0291 (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

---

My sentiments exactly. It's fundamentally specious for the Wikipedia editors to include reviews from Pitchfork Media and Slant Magazine -- two expansive and nonspecific publications devoted to broad criticism and commentary --, while excluding a review from a reputable and specialized Internet publication that exclusively explores the realm of "Hip Hop" in HipHopDX. Alas, with the omission of HipHopDX's critique, Recovery's Wikipedia review section appears fragmentary and invalid.

In this topic, Eminem fans complaining about the low reviews given by notable music sites. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 00:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

--- A disingenuous Wikipedia contributor (and Will Smith fan) vehemently attempting to rationalize a rather lamentable omission. Nobody was asking for the Pitchfork/Slant reviews to get repudiated; rather, readers were merely asking that ulterior reviews -- including the one on HipHopDX -- be included to lend more credence to the critique section.

Commercial Performance Update

The album has now gone platinum, as it has sold over a million copies. that should be mentioned in this article.

                              -Source: Wikipedia Page: Eminem Discography  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.32.194.134 (talk) 01:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC) 

the album is now the second best selling album of the year, there are information on the following site that revelas that he sold more in 4 weeks than what justin beiber done in 17 weeks, how it is the 2nd most successful album of the year at the moment etc

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/58556/week-ending-july-18-2010-boomer-icons-invade-top-10/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.97.227 (talk) 19:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Music Section

In the music section, there are songs listed that are "confirmed tracks" for the album. These tracks were not used. Should this be edited that the tracks were not used? Or deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Green420jdubb (talk • contribs) 05:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUESTS: Album Reviews

NME gave the album 7/10: http://www.nme.com/reviews/eminem/11394 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.48.19 (talk) 17:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

NOT PROFESSIONAL?! That is just a retarded remark >.<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NME

More professional than the reviews already up there. Its given reviews to all the current artists.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.9.86.172 (talk) 22:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

That review is already included in the reception section's prose. Dan56 (talk) 00:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Non-Single chart positions

What does this mean? Shouldn't it just say Single chart positions?Ordinary Person (talk) 14:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

No that section is the chart positions for songs on the album that weren't released as singles. Red Flag on the Right Side 14:53, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from ExposeNoRemorse, 7 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} | Track = Ridaz | Track Number = 18 | Note = Bonus Track | Length = 5:00 | Writer = Eminem | Extra = Prod. by Dr. Dre

ExposeNoRemorse (talk) 09:02, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

 Already done If you hit 'show' on the right side under 17, you'll see this and one other track. CTJF83 chat 16:56, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Recovery (Eminem album)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Recovery (Eminem album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "billboard1":

• From Aphrodite (album): "Aphrodite". Billboard.biz. 3 July 2010. Retrieved 30 June 2010.
• From Mariah Carey: Up for Discussion Jump to Forums. "The Emancipation of Mimi – Mariah Carey". Billboard.com. Retrieved 2010-06-29.
• From Not Afraid: Pietroluongo, Silvio (2010-05-12). "Eminem To Enter Hot 100 At No. 1". Billboard. Retrieved 2010-05-12.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Rakim69, 18 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Seriously guys stop playin' with words do something right for every albums. On the Tracklisting category, instead of using the word "writer(s)", use the word "songwriter(s)" (meaning all the people who create the song meaning lyricist + beat makers...). It is used on every articles I see on wikipedia (ex : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Don_Killuminati:_The_7_Day_Theory). Writers are the people who wrote the lyrics, and trust me Resto and others are not lyricist but beat makers.

Rakim69 (talk) 17:17, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome. The template is fully protected. You would have to make an editprotected request at template talk:tracklist. Celestra (talk) 00:53, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST

"For the seventh week in a row, Eminem’s “Recovery” holds on to the number one spot on the Billboard charts."

“Recovery” holds on to the number one spot on the Billboard charts. The soul-searching hip-hop album now holds the record for accruing the most weeks at number one since “Speakerboxx/The Love Below” by Outcast reached seven weeks at the top back in 2003."

SOURCE: http://www.nerdles.com/2010/08/27/eminem%E2%80%99s-recovery-strong/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.245.222 (talk) 14:56, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

NO LOVE WILL BE NEXT SINGLE

It has been determined, however, that the next single from "Recovery" will be "No Love," a collaboration with Lil Wayne. "I did a song with Wayne called 'Drop the World' for his ('Rebirth') album," Eminem notes, "and we had just agreed to do an even swap, so I wanted him on my album. I kind of waited, and when Just Blaze had finished that beat we jumped on it."

Source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100828/ten-uk-eminem-5fdf947.html (Yahoo!)

Also, it should be noted Eminem referred to the music video of no love ages ago via twitter stating that Wayne's verse had been filmed before he went to jail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.155.158 (talk) 04:38, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST

The album is also the longest staying album for a male artist since Usher’s "Confession" earned nine weeks in the top slot in 2004.

SOURCE: http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/274598/eminem-s-seven-weeks-recovery

Also, there are other notable points in the source which can be used.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.2.181 (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

No Love Music Video

Eminem stated via twitter: "We got Wayne's verse filmed before he went away luckily. Gotta shoot the rest of a "No Love" video real soon. Keep your head up Weezy!" 9:18 PM Jun 12th via web —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.151.28 (talk) 23:18, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Best selling album of 2010

recovery has become the best selling album of 2010 - over taking Frusia or somin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.116.182 (talk) 20:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Third Single

The no love page states that it will be released september 19th. Its 20th now, can someone please look into this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.249.150.234 (talk) 13:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request

Can someone add the firt week worldwide sales as well after the comment of it selling 741,000 in the US alone in its first week?

Someone please look into this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.112.112 (talk • contribs) 01:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Error

Im seeing "Worlwide". Someone needs to add a "D" in there. Its in the last sentence but first paragraphs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.92.111.80 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

RECOVERY SELLS 2.2 MILLION

Source: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1646449/20100825/eminem.jhtml

Also, source states it has had seven weeks at no.1 out of its 9 weeks of release.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.172.239 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Alternate Reovery CD cover?

Where has it gone? Recovery has two covers, paul rosenburg stated that ppl can simply turn over the booklet to use it - its an official alternate cover!

Can someone re-add it?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.161.191 (talk) 14:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

SAMPLEING NOT FEATURING!!

e.g it says Eminem going through changes featuring black sabbath.. WRONG.. its a sample not a feature... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.109.24 (talk) 21:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

who is KOBE?

What im wonderng is, who is Kobe featured in "Talkin 2 Myself" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emin3m97 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hes a singer. Also featured on Fabolous' "Imma Do It" off Loso's Way. STATic message me! 20:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

WORLDWIDE SALES

America isn't the only place the CD was released -_-

The album sold over a million worldwide upon release in its first week, this should be noted as well.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.113.187 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

You forgot to present your reliable sources (for your second sentence, not your first). — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

THERE IS NO NEED FOR A 'RELIABLE SOURCE' - just simple maths:

The album debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart, with first-week sales of 741,000 copies.[42] The album debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart, selling 140,000 copies in its first week in the United Kingdom.[50] In Canada, the album sold 85,000 copies in its first week and debuted at number one on Canada's Albums Chart.[51] In Japan, Oricon recorded a debut of number six with 20,678 units sold.[54] It also went gold in its first week in New Zealand and Australia, debuting at number one in both countries.[55][56] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.249.51 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

This falls under WP:OR and, I think, WP:SYNTH, so isn't useful for us at WP. Find some reliable source who's done the simple maths for you, then it can be added. You can't reliably add certs and sales from different countries to come up with some reliable worldwide total, which is one reason worldwide totals attract a lot of scepticism around here. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 22:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

No you can't. You're right. Hence the generalization: "Over a million worldwide" I haven't given an exact number but its true that it is over a million.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.249.51 (talk) 11:23, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Read (at least) the astonishing first sentence of Wikipedia:Verifiability. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 13:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

BTW, Musicchart is not official, Em will outsell Gaga, someone delete that recovery is the second highest selling, and wait till the IFPP or sth like that, the official world wide sales company release the numbers!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.135.5.121 (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Year-End-charts

The YE-position of Recovery was No. 12 in Germany! Please add it source--79.216.178.163 (talk) 20:28, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Not the best selling album of 2010

There is an error in this article. Recovery isn't the best selling album of 2010. Acording to the global charts,The Fame Monster by Lady Gaga beat Eminem's Recovery and is in fact the best selling album of 2010. Look: http://www.mediatraffic.de/year-end-albums.htm Recovery sold 100k copies less than the fame monster.--West231 (talk) 17:08, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Thats worldwide!!! In the USA 'Recovery' was the best selling album.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.87.234 (talk) 19:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

For the memo mediatraffik isn't official

IFPP have the real numbers. mediatraffik count 2 Gaga's album in one only and estimate numbers. There still no official best selling album worldwide. (USA are real numbers tho) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakim69 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Space Bound is the 4th Single

Confirmed by Paul Rosenberg in the detroit news.

http://detnews.com/article/20110208/ENT04/102080343/1424/ENT04/Eminem%E2%80%99s-two-Super-Bowl-ads-%E2%80%98coincidental%E2%80%99 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.109.219.254 (talk) 20:48, 8 February 2011 (UTC) oh! Oops! Sorry. Didn't see that space bound was referenced in the body. :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elayne123 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Best selling Album of the year

The last time i checked, when it coomes to best selling albums of the year, we base it on the united sates, not worldwide. so Recovery Is the best selling album of the year. (see best selling albums by year in the united states for proof !) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.129.15 (talk) 07:02, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The real problem is that people who control this page are according credits to mediatraffik, an estimation fake site about album sales. Official sales (WW) are from IFPI. They will give them in April, Recovery will be number 1 there. Just wait April. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakim69 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Kevintwiki, 5 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}}

Please delete the list of "Personnel" which has been copied from http://www.allmusic.com/album/recovery-r1813674/credits.

Kevintwiki (talk) 01:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

 Not done. It's a list of names and instruments. There's nothing copyrightable about it. — ξ^xplicit 07:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Eminem Chronology

Add Bad Meets Evil EP Next, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.26.144 (talk) 07:12, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 50.47.210.147, 24 June 2011

Please change TBA (under the singles list, under Space Bound) to June 26th, 2011 because Eminem announced on his twitter account that the Space Bound music video will release on vevo.com this Sunday (June 26th). http://twitter.com/eminem

50.47.210.147 (talk) 00:37, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Already done A confirmed user has already updated the article in regards to this edit - Happysailor ^(Talk) 08:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request

I quote from the first paragraph of the article. "It is also the best-selling digital album of all-time." This is no longer true, Adele now has the record with '21'. easily verifiable from many sources. Please edit, thanks 86.182.36.163 (talk) 03:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Well, get those sources. Then we can continue this discussion. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 04:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

• http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/digital-and-mobile/adele-s-21-surpasses-1-million-downloads-1005278182.story
• http://www.digitalspy.ca/music/news/a329848/adeles-21-biggest-selling-digital-album-in-us-history.html
• http://www.mtv.ca/news/article.jhtml?id=33920

 Done Next time if you have an edit request as such, give sources to back it up, thank you. WIKIPEDIAN PENGUIN ^(♫♫) 21:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Itstaylorr, 25 July 2011

Hi,

I would like to request a correction in the credits section of this article.

On the page, an engineer is credited under the name "Alex Murzin." The spelling of this name is incorrect. It is properly spelled "Alex Merzin."

References to the correct spelling can be seen at the URLs below.

http://www.artistdirect.com/artist/credits/alex-merzin/6869535 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Recovery+%5BPA%5D+-+CD/9936626.p?id=2111463&skuId=9936626

Thank you wiki mods!

Itstaylorr (talk) 23:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Done Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Worldwide sales

I need to make an observation Recovery ended 2010 with 5,7 million copies sold worldwide and 3,4 million copies in the USA , it cant be at 5,7 right now... it has sold 600,000 more copies ONLY in the USA, so it HAS to be over 6 million copies sold , its a fact .. please i would appreciate if somebody change that :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.74.26.140 (talk) 15:11, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

The Clean Version

--GH200 (talk) 01:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)Do a section on the clean version it takes out all profanities.--GH200 (talk) 01:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

No. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 01:58, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

--GH200 (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2011 (UTC) And why not The MM LP does and the Em show does and Encore does why not this one.--GH200 (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Those do not even have sources. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 13:36, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

USA sales reach 4 million - certification

Source: http://allhiphop.com/2012/02/03/eminems-grammy-winning-album-recovery-goes-4x-platinum/

Someone add this to commercial sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.87.234 (talk) 12:35, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Need a more reliable source for sales like Billboard or Nielsen Soundscan. Other sources tend to inflate these statistics. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 12:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

SALES WORLWIDE

O God! You change the sales already! Recovery has sold 6,882,008 copies.

According Mediatraffic in 2010 sold 5.8 million copies and in 2011 sold 1.2 million, in total (rounded) 7 million.

http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-2010.htm

http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-2011.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Memarna (talk • contribs) 12:09, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Mediatraffic is not a reliable source. Most sites with .de in the url (denoting a forum, self-published sources) arent reliable. Dan56 (talk) 12:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

And where is your reliable source puts it sold 5.7? Do not even have links that lead to a source where you put that..

I find it incredible to continue staying with those sales when it sold over a million more! (sorry for mi english)

--Memarna (talk) 03:30, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, everything in the lead should be, at the very least, sourced in the article body. In this case, the statement you're referring to that is in the lead is also in the commercial performance section. Dan56 (talk) 04:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

All the websites that say they sold 5.7 are dated 2010. During the 2011 'Recovery' has continued to sell throughout the world. At Billboard you can see, and surpassed the 4 millions of copies. Him continue to sell in the U.S. and still putting 2010 sales?

You search on google and see as many sites say their sales are between 6 and 7 million of copies.

Here are links where it says it has sold 7 million copies:

http://brilliantlyblunt.com/?tag=wtt http://www.slimshadyfans.com/2012/02/eminems-recovery-reaches-4x-platinum.html

Also in the part of "Commercial Performance" says that: By the end of its release year, and only six months after release, Recovery had sold over 5,700,000 albums worldwide

I mean, the end of the year and six months after its release. We are in 2012 and the album was released almost two years.

--Memarna (talk) 07:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

That site is a fansite; no user-generated content per WP:RS. This works itself out: if the sales figure is notable enough, it's reported through a reliable source. Feel free to find one, but we can't assume and try to find any source. Dan56 (talk) 19:43, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2015

Hi I would like to change the album sales and worldwide sales all together because the album has sold about 6.5 million copies since it's release and been on the chart for 212 weeks in total so i would like to be requested to edit this article again thanks yours sincerely 118.93.57.86 (talk) 08:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Then I would suggest learning how to add sources. The majority of your edits appear to be WP:OR. Robvanvee 11:21, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:37, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

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