Talk:Psyopus

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Hello my name is Bass Playing robot and I am the new bassist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.26.43 (talk) 11:49, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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In case anyone is wondering about the recent bass player changes - My name is Travis Morgan. I just filled in as a session player for the last Psyopus tour of east coast and Canada. They have already found a new permanent bass player; his name is Brian Kelly, and they took press photos with him at the New England Metal and Hardcore Festival 2009. I was never more than just a fill-in, but I kept my name under previous members because several days prior to the tour I recorded bass for their 7 inch release titled Boogyman.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.127.63 (talk) 18:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This band is pretty well-known in the "underground", so to speak. In their genre they're arguably the most technical band (and compared to most other genres) to exist, especially since releasing their second album. Their potential audience might not be big, but to delete this Wikipedia-page would be BEYOND ridicoulus.

I would like to know how PsyOpus is NOT notable.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=psyopus

"Results 1 - 10 of about 145,000 for psyopus"

seems fairly notable to me.

reviews of their latest CD:

http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=1402 http://www.punknews.org/review/2980 http://www.aversionline.com/reviews/329/

I'd say that they're more than notable enough to keep a page on wikipedia.

band history[edit]

This article is mostly about the guitarist and there is little information about the actual band. A band history should be included. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Emotivia (talk • contribs) 04:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I agree with this critique and added an edit tag to the top of the article for that reason. Knowledgeable people should improve the article by either adding material about the other members or shifting the whole thing to a history/biography of the band overall. DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:35, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

mislabeled mathcore[edit]

I know, on wikipedia, genres are always a big source of discussion. I don't like to start this discussion but I can't help myself...

Why is PsyOpus often mislabeled Mathcore? They have all the characteristics of mathcore, if you ask me (complexity, chaos, screams (core), etc.). They are often compared to DEP, Ion Dissonance, and others bands considered mathcore.

These tags are on Last.fm (not the best source, I know) experimental grind grindcore hardcore math metal mathcore metal metalcore

I'm deleting: "(although often mislabeled "Mathcore")"

unless good sources are cited.

And, furthermore, I'd like to make clear they have hardcore influences, they are not 100% metal. Emmaneul 13:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, PsyOpus is a Grindcore band. *eye roll* -ARandomHeretic 23:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, they're not. Inhumer 01:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from the music being exactly like that of grindcore, what makes them otherwise? -ARandomHeretic 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have you ever listened to actual grindcore? Inhumer 18:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why would I do such a thing? It would ruin my reputation with my mallcore friends. -ARandomHeretic 21:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not even from the same street as Grindcore. 71.74.13.4 08:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They have some aspects of Grindcore and Technical Death Metal, many consider them these genres. Perhaps adding them to the genre list along with Mathcore?SuperRadX 15:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I think the best catagory for this band was coined by Alternative Press back in 2004 or 2005 as one of the top 100 bands to look out for in the upcoming year (that same year "Ideas of Reference" was also listed in Alternative Press as one of the "Top 10 Best Mathcore Alums of All Time"). They coined Psyopus as "Avante Grind/Math Core". Consider Psyopus have the relentless blast beats and dissonance of grind core yet they aren't as noisey and unpolished as it is often generally excepted by the elitist underground. In that same vein, some will say they are lacking the nessasry political view points associated with Grindcore. I disagree with the need for this to make it Grindcore but, it's a thought worth considering as well. But after considering anything about Pig Destroyer (with clean blasting and clean riffing) as Grindcore, one would also need to apply these traights to Psyopus, of coarse minus the fact that Psyopus songs are generally much longer and involve more music elements in them stylistically. This is where the "Grindcore" term merges into the "Avante Grind" definition. Psyopus has many charactistics of spazzy, noisy, blast beat mania yet, Psyopus have created it's own entity compared to other bands associated with Grindcore. The "Avante" would suggest Psyopus' experimental side when meshed with their "grindcore"-ish elements.

And from there we could discuss the Mathcore half of the category. Mathcore you would seem to think of as music with "math" at it's "core". Now, arguabley someone in the mood to be argunmentive could say that 99.9% of music has math at it's core. So to better redefine what this mathcore must mean, I would suggest it means music where not only the "math" of the music is at it's "core", but these math elements are stepped up a notch in complexity or variation as compared to that that is generally expected in music. If that is a suitable definition of mathcore (similar to "prog"), is Psyopus not stretching the bounds of the otherwise taken for granted mathmatical characteristics of general music? Time measures, tempos, arrangements - these variables in music are exploited mathmatically by the group - quite to the extreme and is arguabley a big part of what makes their sound - and for this I think a "mathcore" catagorization would be nothing less than on point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.169.144.108 (talk) 07:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]