Talk:Phil Williams (Alabama state senator)

A fact from Phil Williams (Alabama state senator) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 February 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Phil Williams served in the Alabama state legislature at the same time as Phil Williams?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Phil Williams (Alabama senator).

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On 13 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Phil Williams (Alabama senator) to Phil Williams (Alabama state senator). The result of the discussion was moved.

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 07:36, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Phil Williams served in the Alabama state legislature at the same time as Phil Williams? Source: Alabama Governor Robert Bentley scandal: Who are the legislators seeking impeachment?: "Williams, not to be confused with the state senator from Rainbow City with the same name"
- ALT1: ... that state senator Phil Williams served in the Alabama legislature at the same time as state representative Phil Williams? Source: Alabama Governor Robert Bentley scandal: Who are the legislators seeking impeachment?: "Williams, not to be confused with the state senator from Rainbow City with the same name"
- Comment: This is my second DYK nomination. I chose Phil Williams the state senator (not Phil Williams the state representative) to be bolded because he has had a more public profile and more expansive coverage. Thank you!

5x expanded by Kafoxe (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:
New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems: - Still marked as a stub.

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - The hook is not found in the article at all, and neither is the source used.
Interesting:
Other problems: - The hook needs to differentiate between the two Williams a bit better.

QPQ: None required.

Overall: The hook issues are going to hold this one up. Sounder Bruce 03:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the hook and its source to both articles, and provided an alternative hook that includes the Williams' titles. Both articles were stubs prior to expansion, but I removed the tags from the pages in expanding them. Kafoxe (talk) 01:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Kafoxe: The source is an opinion piece, so if an alternative is available, that would be better. Sounder Bruce 01:52, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @SounderBruce: I've replaced the source in the nomination with a new one and added it to both articles. Kafoxe (talk) 02:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - ALT1 is good to go. Sounder Bruce 08:35, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      - @SounderBruce: actually, ALT0 is fine in my opinion—the ambiguity is its strength. It's a quirky hook; it omits a little bit of the story to make readers want to click more, without giving false information. If you'd approve it, I'd be much happier to promote that one. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:27, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        (for ALT0) It would be hookier. Sounder Bruce 11:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Phil Williams (Alabama representative) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 14:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]