Talk:Peter Madsen/Archive 1

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This is my first page, please tell me if it is up to par. Thanks. LIbertyInSpace (talk) 09:07, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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Kim Wall

Kim Wall's disappearance is covered (and updated when news appear) in UC3 Nautilus, in Peter Madsen (inventor), and in Kim Wall (journalist). Where does it belong? I think perhaps under Kim Wall only, wikilinked form the other two.--Nø (talk) 20:08, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

UPDATE: Kim Wall Was Stabbed After Boarding Submarine, Danish Prosecutor Says, By MARTIN SELSOE SORENSENOCT. 4, 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.131.10.133 (talk) 21:45, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Parole or not

A brief explanation for my removal of "without parole". In a recent article BBC claimed that Madsen's conviction was without the possibility of parole, but then contradict themselves in the very same article by describing what life imprisonment means in Denmark (section: What does life imprisonment mean in Denmark?). Furthermore, the claimed lack of parole is not mentioned anywhere in the official court papers (in Danish) and would be directly against the Danish Penal Code §41 (also Danish). In summary: all life prisoners in Denmark can request parole after 12 years, but whether it is granted is a separate matter (depends on behavior in prison, potential risk of committing crime again, etc -- in other words, highly unlike that it will be granted to Madsen, but he has the right to ask for it in 12 years). RN1970 (talk) 00:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguation "inventor"

The article is currently called "Peter Madsen (inventor)", but what has he invented?

Any idea for a better disambiguation? --85.194.2.168 (talk) 13:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

He invented a rocket powered human centrifuge, for instance. It's hard to describe what he does in one word but I think 'inventor' is a pretty good term for it. I don't know if he has patented anything but that's not required to be called an inventor...

References

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomvanbraeckel (talk • contribs) 15:25, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

"Alleged murderer" would be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.6.136.249 (talk) 05:54, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

His article was created in 2011 and had a reasonable amount of activity and interest long before the alleged murder. Whether we think he is a murderer or not, I think it's inappropriate to use "(alleged murderer)" as disambiguation. My guess - not that we should be guessing - is that he eventually will be convicted, but not for murder (there are several other charges). The dab page Peter Madsen (disambiguation) of course has room for a longer disambiguation than the article title and yet misses the submarine building thing ("artist, aerospace engineer, entrepreneur and founder of Copenhagen Suborbitals, arrested on a homicide charge in August 2017"). I'd suggest we leave the title here as it is, for now, but I'm not sure the article Peter Madsen should be about the footballer (soccer player); should we put the dab page there instead?--Nø (talk) 11:03, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Let this person have the main "Peter Madsen" article and let the article about the other guy be renamed "Peter Madsen (footballer)". Why? Because this guy is FAR MORE exposed in media than the former football player why gained a mere 13 caps for Denmark. It should be as simple as that. 83.250.25.39 (talk) 19:25, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Occupation

He Is not an Engineer, he is an amateur enthusiast. He is not qualified as an Engineer. Donn300 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donn300 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

In Denmark, "engineer" is not a protected title. If you do engineering, you can call yourself an engineer. There are titles corresponding to specific engineering qualifications - e.g., I'm a cand.polyt., i.e., polytechnical candidate, i.e. I have an engineering master's degree from DTU - but I don't describe myself as an engineer because that is not what I do for a living. (I'm here replying to an old post that may actually object to a use of "engineer" in the article that has since been removed.)--Nø (talk) 16:14, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

I agree with Nø, he should simply be called an engineer because that IS his work. If it was a hobby, sure. He'd be an enthousiast. But can someone with their own company trying to build spacecraft be called an enthousiast? Also, "enthousiast" is not an occupation. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 16:48, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Peter Madsen is a murderer, not an engineer, current investigation reveals he planned the murder before letting her on the Submarine. This should be obvious. ElectricInterloper (talk) 16:19, 23 January 2018 (UTC)ElectricInterloper

WP:BLPCRIME - innocent until proven guilty. Linguist^unEins^uno 17:52, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Biography lacking basic info

Does Madsen have a place of birth? Has he ever worked for a company? Did he ever do anything before building a submarine? For a bio page, this lacks so many basic facts! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1c0:8602:1ff7:252c:88f6:4271:d168 (talk) 10:52, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

This sounds more like an intro to a friendly biography rather than an encyclopedia entry.

This reads more like an intro to a biography than a factual encyclopedia entry. (be kind, this is the first time I've commented and made a suggestion)

He became friendly with the family responsible for the fireworks in Copenhagen's Tivoli Gardens; he would question engineers about rocket fuel; and he kept experimenting for dear life, frequently endangering himself and his environments. He also joined DARK, [12] the rocket club in Copenhagen, but the other members gradually gave up accepting his wilder and wilder ideas. The DARK members ended up virtually hating him, claiming that "saying his name would make the fire sprinkler system going". He never succeeded at finishing any formal education; but he attended courses in welding and part of an engineering education to learn something about submarines. He was able to finance this mode of living through financial support from people, organizations and enterprises that felt drawn to his extreme passion, ability and iron will to make his wild ideas come true

This is the first time I've commented and lack the knowledge to make proper changes (not to mention find the sources), but, after reading this, hopefully others more experenced might improve on this. Especially with he latest news (convicted of murder)Extremelyocd (talk) 22:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)