Talk:Paul von Klenau

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Re: Schoenberg pupil?[edit]

There seems to be considerable disagreement between sources whether or not Klenau was a Schoenberg pupil. A survey of sources online or quoted online shows several- all recent - that claim that he was, others that refer to letters between Klenau and Schoenberg but say that he probably was not a pupil (though did advocate for his music), etc. One would think that something biographical about Klenau might be around (maybe a book in Danish?) that would have a settled answer, or at least definite material that could be then interpreted, rather than the present they said this/they said that situ. For now, I see no reason to keep the category on this page/vice-versa. Schissel | Sound the Note! 23:00, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How about the New Grove article (2001) by Thomas Michelsen and Erik Levi? "A large number of letters from Klenau to Alban Berg, dated from 1920 until the latter’s death in 1935, attest to a close friendship. Some letters to Schoenberg also show that, while probably not a pupil of his, Klenau was certainly intimate with the Schoenberg circle." This must either reflect Michelsen's view more than Levi's, or represent a more recent change of opinion, since in the New Grove Dictionary of Opera (second edition, 1992) the article by Levi and William H. Reynolds says, " Following a final period of study with Schoenberg, he conducted the Vienna Konzerthausgesellschaft from 1922 to 1930."—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:53, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]