Talk:Passport validity

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Initial discussion[edit]

Thank you to the person who checked this page. I will add a table of countries once I can work out how to make tables. And of course add references too Thank you.

designguy84.

3 Sept 2014 Thank you to the person who added the Table, Much appreciated Designguy84

Validity categories[edit]

Categories "5 or less", "5 to 10", and "10" are somewhat poorly named (since, for most people, "5 to 10" is an inclusive interval - it includes both 5 and 10.) The same problem is partly present in the map (which says "5 to 9".)

Unless there are countries issuing passports for a fractional number of years, it would be best to go with "5 or less" / "6 to 9" / "10". --Itinerant1 (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Categories[edit]

I agree that the categories are a bit hard to digest, but I understand how they are simpler. How about adding an info column that lists out specifically the number of years and facilitates including a source for each country? Wingedbeaver (talk) 18:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category table is not helping[edit]

I think it may be in violation of WP:WHENTABLE. There are plenty of cases where not using a table is the better option than figuring out how to improve the table. Or at least the ✖ and ✔ 3-column isn't helping. Why not just list the values in a single column like you would any value? And if countries neatly group into three categories, why not do so without a table? E.g.

   Countries with passports expiring in 5 years: A, B, C...
   Countries with passports expiring in 10 years: D, E, F...

Etc. -- Nidaana (talk) 07:01, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done I've gone ahead and removed the Y and N columns. The meaning was apparently confusing to both the readers and editors. There were plenty of mistakes in how the columns were edited. It was likely a mistake to have used this scheme in the first place. --Nidaana (talk) 07:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum and more note on the edits. First of all we have no one but to blame ourselves to have suffered for a decade under Designguy84's 2014 scheme of using the boolean columns for 5, 5-10, and 10 years. These were systematically converted to numbers (e.g. YNN would be 5, YNY would be "5 or 10"). For countries with a Y in the middle column, I systematically went through each of those country's passport article page to determine the expiration date. I could not find information either on Wikipedia or elsewhere on the Internet about Santomean passport expiration date, so I left that with a "citation needed" tag. --Nidaana (talk) 08:05, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]