Talk:Parque Central Complex fire

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BorgQueen (talk) 05:32, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The tower ablaze in the 2004 fire

... that during the Parque Central Complex fire, Venezuela's historical archive of public building plans was destroyed? Source: "Se destruyó la planoteca, un invalorable archivo donde estaba toda la historia en planos de edificios públicos del país, desde hace dos siglos, incluyendo sistemas de acueductos y cloacas." Segured
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Created by NoonIcarus (talk). Self-nominated at 23:13, 13 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Parque Central Complex fire; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

This can't be reviewed until the tags have been removed. --evrik ^(talk) 22:46, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: Done. Please let me know if there are further issues. --NoonIcarus (talk) 22:30, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Added picture. The image was uploaded with a valid Creative Commons license some years ago. --NoonIcarus (talk) 00:29, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: --evrik ^(talk) 00:10, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note on the image, it is currently nominated for deletion at Commons so I don't think it can or should be used until that is resolved. - Aoidh (talk) 21:16, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Image replaced, thanks for the note. --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:31, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@NoonIcarus and evrik: article has substantial issues with sourcing and copyright. These include: theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:15, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Venelogía 2022 (at least, the text of it) is a press release (not a reliable secondary source) that doesn't verify the lead statement of the article.
- pretty much none of the facts in the two lead sentences are verified by the preceding source and the other one provided (El Universal 2004)
- the part of the article sourced to segured.com is too close to a google translated version of the source.
- the "subsequent fires" paragraphs (which are out of order?) don't show relevance to the original incident.
  - Thanks for the heads up! I will try to solve the issues in the following days. --NoonIcarus (talk) 00:43, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Theleekycauldron: I have made several changes seeking to address the issue. Please let me know if there are any remaining, including the copyright ones. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:15, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - @NoonIcarus: I think that would probably still fall under close paraphrasing. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      - Maybe this phrasing could work?: "The fire destroyed the building's archive of Venezuela's public building plans that spanned two centuries" --NoonIcarus (talk) 08:19, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        Still WP:CLOP, NoonIcarus. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:10, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It has been over a month since the most recent attempt was made to deal with close paraphrasing, and it is not solved. Marking nomination for closure as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:56, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]