Talk:PDTV
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DSRip vs. PDTV[edit]
Both are the same right? Digital source, less than HD resolution?
- No, a DSRip involves an analog conversion step, i.e. the S-video (or worse, composite/RCA) output of a satellite receiver connected to a PC capture card. PDTV and HDTV rips are fully digital, transcoding the MPEG-2 data sent by the satellite provider directly to the final format. --Msgohan 19:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well "Digital Satellite Rip" is misleading then, since it the analog step via S-VHS has much bigger impact on the video quality than the fact that the signal is coming from a digital receiver. Whether the it is from an analog or digital transponder is totally irrelevant.
- Not really; I don't think you'd be saying that if you'd seen the old analog satellite wildfeed rips Scene groups used to do, heh... But at any rate, these are the terms in common use so there's no sense arguing about them. Digital->analog "DSRips" preceded the availability of DVB tuner cards, so when it did become possible to transcode the actual data stream, a new label had to be invented. --Msgohan 08:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hm yeah, that makes sense of course. Thanks!
- Not really; I don't think you'd be saying that if you'd seen the old analog satellite wildfeed rips Scene groups used to do, heh... But at any rate, these are the terms in common use so there's no sense arguing about them. Digital->analog "DSRips" preceded the availability of DVB tuner cards, so when it did become possible to transcode the actual data stream, a new label had to be invented. --Msgohan 08:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well "Digital Satellite Rip" is misleading then, since it the analog step via S-VHS has much bigger impact on the video quality than the fact that the signal is coming from a digital receiver. Whether the it is from an analog or digital transponder is totally irrelevant.
I believe most files labelled DSR/DSRips are PDTV now. With DirectTV (non DVB) this can be done with modified satellite receivers or other specialized hardware.Petree (talk) 01:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Planet Dust Television[edit]
Original text added by 72.236.218.36 22:41, 16 November 2005: 'PDTV has also been seen on semi-professional DVD releases found at fan conventions and on the internet. In this case, PDTV does *not* stand for "Pure Digital Television", since the source material for these DVDs is almost always analog, such as VHS. These releases are intended to fill gaps in the current catalog of available DVDs by making material available that has not yet been released on DVD. In the event that a PDTV release is made obsolete by an official DVD, that particular title is pulled by PDTV and no longer offered.'
PDTV has also been seen on semi-professional DVD releases found at fan conventions and on the internet. In this case, PDTV is not intended to stand for "Pure Digital Television", since the source material for these DVDs is almost always analog, such as VHS.
So what DOES it stand for in this case? Is it the name of a specific group of fans who produce these DVDs? --Msgohan 22:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Transferred from article - better off in here me thinks:
Perhaps a disambiguation page (pdtv vs. PDTV) would be appropriate. It is believed that in the latter case, PDTV actually stands for "Planet Dust Television", since a company known to be associated with these releases is called Planet Dust.
"In the event that a PDTV release is made obsolete by an official DVD, that particular title is pulled by PDTV and no longer offered." -- makes no sense. PDTV is defined in the article as being an abbreviation. Can an abbreviation "pull" a "particular title"? Who is this PDTV that is pulling the title? A guy? A company? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.169.112 (talk) 14:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I think the "unrelated paragraph" NEEDS TO STAY in the article. Think about the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a guy named Joel Rifkin. She wanted to make damn sure nobody assumed he was the serial killer named Joel Rifkin. In the same way, it's not fair to remove anything that clarifies that PDTV is NOT *always* associated with pirating currently-available video material. PDTV is fan-made DVDs for fans, so it would be appreciated if the disassociation paragraph would remain. I'd expect that the article on DivX makes it plain that it's not the rental/purchase DVD system that used to be sold at Circuit City, since I really don't think Circuit City wants to be associated with DivX movies, since they're largely pirated material and/or porn. All you need to know is that Planet Dust produces PDTV titles and that they do not represent the kind of material you see on torrent sites with pdtv in the filename. Therefore the disambiguation is necessary... if not in the main article, at least as a separate disambiguation page or link that says "for the fan-made DVD releases, see PDTV". I don't think that's asking too much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.236.218.36 (talk) 19:38, 29 April 2008
I agree. I was wrong to remove it. Just because I couldn't find anything referencing for that use or relevant google results for 'Planet Dust Television' doesn't mean it doesn't belong in the article. I did however take a crack at rewriting your paragraph so that it was a little tighter and I removed the reference to PD pulling DVDs that people seem to take issue with. I understand what you're trying to say there, you're trying to distinguish between these releases and pirated DVDs or similar, PD releases contain otherwise unavailable material, not just dupes. My brother had a fan subbed Anime series, now that it's been released on DVD it's not like the gray market distributor kept selling their unoffical stuff. It comes with niche businesses such as that. If you know anything more about 'Planet Dust' maybe it's time to break out into an article and have disambuation, but a couple sentences isn't too much to include till then.Petree (talk) 01:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)