Talk:Pádraigín Ní Uallacháin

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This is a present day article and as such should use the relevent names and informaton. Whatever the manual of style of the personal website there is WP:MOS and within that WP:IMOS, please do not use kingdoms that have not existed in centuries or provinces that, may still exist but would not give a clear picture. Ulster is in two states, Oriel is no longer around, this has been adjusted to show correct modern encyclopdic context. Murry1975 (talk) 10:08, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, we don't know where exactly Ní Uallacháin was born. It could have been County Louth (where her parents married) or elsewhere (the family travelled as her father was a government school inspector) ref. Therefore, Oriel area is all we have to go on. Your reference was based on the primary school on the subject's LinkedIn profile, it does not verify or add authenticity to your edits. Some articles state Monaghan, some state Louth, others state Cavan. --Filastin (talk) 14:06, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Then it should be left blank, if it can not be cited. Murry1975 (talk) 18:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But the general area can be cited. If there is no specific area, the best area possible that is factual should be given rather than nothing, or a non-fact.--Filastin (talk) 11:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The general area? Yes. Historic area that no longer exists? No. Modern names for modern era. WP:PLACES touches on this, and as does WP:MOS. WP:IMOS deals with place names in Ireland and WP:IRE-IRL with the usage of [[Republlic of Ireland|Ireland] and [[Ireland]]. Murry1975 (talk) 15:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree - can't use outdated names of places. It's akin to saying that Brigitte Bardot was born in Gaul. Hohenloh⁺ 02:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

South-east Ulster is not outdated. Can stick to that. Whatever happened to grown-up community discussion on this site. --Filastin (talk) 16:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No Ulster, is in more than one state, and not in common use and not used, articles are meant to be consistant. Biographies use town/place county and country, they do not use general wording (and should not). BTW this is a grown-up discussion, as per WP:NPA would you care to strike that remark. There is clear guidelines and consensus on what should be done, a series of edits are going against that by ONE editor. Murry1975 (talk) 17:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Finally, with a bit of research, the Douglas Hyde Conference seems to be a reliable source.Filastin (talk) 00:29, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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