Talk:Oscar bait

A fact from Oscar bait appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 March 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a study by two UCLA sociologists found that the 1990 film Come See the Paradise was the most blatant Oscar bait released since 1985?

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Refimprove[edit]

I've tagged this for refimprove; we need sources (preferably multiple for each film named) saying that it was Oscar bait for these reasons. It's not enough to say "source says historical films are Oscar bait, Shakespeare In Love is a historical film, therefore it is Oscar bait" - that sort of syllogism is WP:OR. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:45, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This can be much better[edit]

Properly developed, this article could be as rich as (tooting my own horn alert) dump months. There's a lot of interesting discussion in the cited sources. We could have a lot more than just lists of films here. I think we have a shot at a DYK nomination if we act fast. Daniel Case (talk) 03:34, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Possible earliest use[edit]

This New York Times article from 1955. Beats the 1968 one we have at Wiktionary. Can someone look behind the paywall? Daniel Case (talk) 05:21, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Beat it. The New Republic in 1948 [1]. Daniel Case (talk) 05:29, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I beat that one too, here are some 1942 mentions: [2][3] (subscription is required to view full pages but can't do anything about that) Tehonk (talk) 01:49, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of films considered "Oscar bait"[edit]

Is the list of Oscar bait films that failed to receive nominations truly needed? My reasoning is that it reveals little about the meaning of Oscar bait, its characteristics, etc. It can also give the impression that films perceived as Oscar bait never actually win anything (and there have been, i.e. Shakespeare in Love, Green Book, All Quiet on the Western Front, etc). I expect the list will get longer, and it is already such a specific topic.

Also, the list is almost word-for-word a list of episodes from the podcast This Had Oscar Buzz. The list could simply be removed and replaced with a reference for the podcast. @Espngeek Spectrallights (talk) 15:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least, as the main contributor to this article, I think it could be spun off into a separate list, as it has the potential to get very long. Daniel Case (talk) 18:30, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]