Talk:OnMobile

removing unreferenced material[edit]

I recently removed much of the material from this article, as I cannot see any reference to verify the assertions.

If you feel that the information can be reinstated, please do so with suitable references.

Regards, -- Chzz ► 20:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that everything that I have added and/or restored has a proper reference. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the "Financial Data" section again because the source of the "news" appears to mainly cover daily movements of stock prices as seen at this link. Since an upturn story is not also included (for example, the one titled Onmobile Global surges 6.21% at BSE), the selection of a story that covers a downturn in the shares puts undue weight on a negative event. The selection of 6 months being a comparison for the stock price is also undue weight on a negative event as one could also select a 3 month view in which the stock would have seen a 14.77% gain. Finally, the data is nearly one month old. The stock as of the Mar. 6th close (Rs 230.05) is up from the cited source. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just reworded to remove the claim that it's India's largest VAS, because other sources, for example here at the same source as the ref given, and here on 8 Mar 2009, claim that Hungama is the largest. -- Chzz ► 08:28, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The link you listed stating that Hungama is the largest VAS was posted 3 Jul 2007, 0258 hrs IST, while the reference in the article was posted 11 Feb 2009, 0015 hrs IST, therefore I believe that the most recent cited source is correct. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I posted 2 links which contest the claim; the 2nd is 8 March, as stated previously. -- Chzz ► 07:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You need to re-read your references. The Economic Times article clearly states in the byline "3 Jul 2007, 0258 hrs IST, Harsimran Singh, TNN". The article itself states "Hungama last month showcased IIFA awards 2007". The mgovworld.org reference is a copy of The Economic Times article and does not have a date and strips out the byline. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've even clip it out for you:

Mobile2W to merge with VAS provider Altruist Group: Byline is 11 Feb 2009, 0015 hrs IST, Rashmi Pratap, ET Bureau

Hungama Mobile flags off Bollywood: Byline is 3 Jul 2007, 0258 hrs IST, Harsimran Singh, TNN

World's First Bollywood channel for mobile phone launched by Hungama Mobile: No date listed anywhere in page. At the bottom Source : The Economic Times. Exact word-for-word copy of previous story without byline.

So your references to contest the claim are over a year out of date. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3PO If stock prices are going to be mentioned, then RS sources should be used to discuss why this is a notable piece of information to keep in the article. The numbers by themselves mean nothing. Context is required to ensure that this isn't just a dumping ground of every piece of information there is. NJGW (talk) 23:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of list of 'services'[edit]

I have removed the list of services, per WP:CORP, because the list of products is not independently notable. Quoting from WP:CORP,

"A primary test of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, or vendor) have actually considered the company, corporation, product or service notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it." -- Chzz ► 07:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CORP says "Information on products and services should generally be included in the article on the company itself, unless the company article is so large that this would make the article unwieldy." I have therefore restored the listing. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leadership Status[edit]

Leadership claims not very clear in this industry. Such claims should be backed up by references from industry bodies or regulatory authorities. A single line mention in a newspaper not enough.

Caccophonix (talk) 10:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The company annual report is a statutory document. Here's what OnMobile annual report says about the leadersip status - "Incorporated in the year 2000, OnMobile Global Limited (Company) is a leading provider of Mobile Value Added Services and products (MVAS) in India with an expanding international presence."The statement appears ambigious.

Caccophonix (talk) 08:36, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]